Ruger Security Six

[Bozo]

Need some help on a Ruger 6" security six FBI National Academy model. This gun was brought a few months ago by a friend, NIB, never fired. She has put about 100 rounds thru it and now she is saying the hammer is dragging when she goes to cock it.

I got it from her this weekend and sometimes indeed it does seem to drag slightly when trying to fire single action. I have checked the space between the cylinder and the forcing cone and it is less than .005. It seems to be very tight there.

I took it and cleaned it, and oiled around the hammer and trigger like I do my SP101. Seemed to clear it up some but I think there is still some drag. I would be interested in some of the ruger guys comments on this.

Is it possibly just some break in or could there be some problems with the way the cylinder is set in?

 

[Bruce H.]

Bozo

Why don't you post on the Ruger forum, they will certainly know how to tell you to fix it.
www.rugerforum.com

 

[Bozo]

Thanks, but I am not a member of the ruger forum, I am a member of this one so I thought perhaps some ruger owners might have a clue as to what was happening.

 

[Walkalong]

I don't know what is wrong, but the Security Six is a fine revolver. It is doubtful there is anything really wrong with it. Probably just needs a good cleaning. It could be a slight burr internally that has not slicked up yet.

 

[loosecannon]

Clean under the extractor star with a tooth brush. Minute particles there can cause binding in any double action revolver. To avoid this, when you eject empties, hold the gun with the barrel straight up. This way empties will fall straight down as will unburned powder and any other crud.

 

[Bozo]

Thanks for the input guys, kinda my thoughts also, along the lines of a good cleaning and maybe just a burr possibly. It is better since I cleaned it but still not as smooth as my security six. This one as noted has few rounds through it although it is 25 years old.

I just want to avoid her the hassle of sending it back to Ruger if she doen't have to.

 

[novaDAK]

My 4" security six does that a little bit after shooting a few hundred rounds through it before cleaning it. After I clean it, it doesn't do it anymore. I haven't checked the gap with a feeler gauge yet but just holding it up to a light shows that it is a little tighter than my S&W.

 

[SeanSw]

My security six has an extremely narrow gap between the cylinder and forcing cone. It will drag if it is only fired a dozen times. Under .005" could potentially be too small. Mine is .002" and it's not good.

 

[madcratebuilder]

.003 to .008 is considered serviceable. I would say .005 is optimum. Is the hammer draging on the frame? A complete take down and cleaning, look for any burr's.

 

[Bozo]

After a complete take down and cleaning all over, it is much better, but at times if you are slowly cocking it, it will feel like a drag.

What I did was to take it apart again and then just reassembled the cylinder so I could turn it either way. When doing this with the frame held upright there is noticable drag at a point or two between the cylinder and the forcing cone. It seems to be the cylinder is set in there off axis, why this was not noticeable when she first picked the firearm up I don't know.

Thanks for the replies. It was interesting to hear from others who also have a very tight gap between forcing cone and cylinders.

 

[Logan5]

It sounds like either the crane is a little bent, or maybe the ejector rod is? Worth taking a close look at, anyway. It's not the cylinder's fault that it's binding, it's balanced and (in theory) precisely aligned on these other parts.

 

[madcratebuilder]

What I did was to take it apart again and then just reassembled the cylinder so I could turn it either way. When doing this with the frame held upright there is noticable drag at a point or two between the cylinder and the forcing cone. It seems to be the cylinder is set in there off axis, why this was not noticeable when she first picked the firearm up I don't know.

I would call Ruger. It may have to go back for repair. It's a shame to be without the pistol for 6-12 weeks.

 

[easyrider604]

What I did was to take it apart again and then just reassembled the cylinder so I could turn it either way. When doing this with the frame held upright there is noticable drag at a point or two between the cylinder and the forcing cone. It seems to be the cylinder is set in there off axis, why this was not noticeable when she first picked the firearm up I don't know.

I would call Ruger. It may have to go back for repair. It's a shame to be without the pistol for 6-12 weeks.

Agree. My new GP100 exhibited the same behavior, and it didn't index or lock-up on two chambers when held in the gansta style and DA'd slowly.

Came back in two weeks including shipping time back and forth (perhaps I got lucky?) with perfect timing, solid lock-up and smooooth trigger.
Can't thank Paul (of the Ruger Quebec Warranty Center) enough for his prompt and quality work. My gun spent only a few days at their shop and it took that long because he was refurbishing 40, IIRC, range rental guns.

 

[edrice]

I have a security-six that a "hitch" in it. That's what the gunsmith called it but it was just like you describe. He replaced parts in it and it still had the drag, and he sent it to Ruger and and they did something (I know not what), and it came back and still did it. It was intermittent. So back it went to Ruger and they replaced the hammer, trigger and few other goddies and, at last, it's as smooth as it should be. Never really found out what was causing it, but it took Ruger (twice) to fix it.

Ed