DammitBoy
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Dear Ruger, please make your wonderful 1911 in 10mm
Ruger SR1911 future
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Rittmeister
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I'd love to see a CCO-pattern Ruger 1911
I also want one with a light rail. That's right, I said it.
I also want one with a light rail. That's right, I said it.
orionengnr
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I believe this to be only partially true. From what I have been reading, the early Coonans were stainless and some had galling problems. The new Coonans have (apparently) made some adjustments to the composition of the stainless steel and the problems are gone.
Lots of good info here:
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=231584
--I carry a stainless 4" Kimber 1911 daily, and shoot it weekly--no worries. It is pretty indifferent to lube. Recently I have been using Ed's Red as a CLP and whatever residual remains, works fine.
--I own and shoot it's 5" cousin as well. It is a 1997-ish model and again, no worries.
--I also own, shoot and (casionally) carry an early S&W M66 no-dash. They had some galling isses early on but S&W figured it out quickly and still makes stainless revolvers that do not have galling issues.
--A stainless Coonan .357 Mg 1911 on my short list right now (as soon as I can save up $1300 or so), and I have no concerns about any galling issues.
All that said, I wonder if Ruger has figured this out. Maybe yes, maybe no--time will tell. I was all fired up and ready to grab one--I am on my dealer's "call list" when she starts to receive SR1911s, but I may wait a while...considering the SR9, my LCP, and other recent releases...
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My reading of the other thread indicates the OP did lube the rails with RemOil. When making a gun for the masses one should consider the type of lubes commonly available and taylor the materials to work with those lubes. I hope it does not take a long time for Ruger to figure this out. After all, it has full control of the metallurgy.
OK my reading of the same thread is that after the OP actually shot the gun (which is the best and in my opinion the ONLY way to determine functional reliability) he had "no complaints" . How on earth can you say from that that SR 1911 "seize up" ......Ridiculous!
I grew up in the Houston area and my parents have a beach house in Matagorda so I am aware of rust.
I'm not arguing that they shouldn't make a stainless model, I'm just saying I hope they make a blued model. I just like the look of blued weapons, I have no deep seated hatred of stainless weapons.
sweater914
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As much as I would like a SR1911, my rock stock Springfield works just fine and I hate chasing brass, my SW 625 gets more excerise. I'm looking for a Commander sized 1911 for carry.
I commend Ruger for getting into the 1911 market, but my ole man always said never to buy the 1st model year of any product due to unforeseen problems during manufacture or use which takes about a year to iron out. Let other people pay for the hype and problems.
I commend Ruger for getting into the 1911 market, but my ole man always said never to buy the 1st model year of any product due to unforeseen problems during manufacture or use which takes about a year to iron out. Let other people pay for the hype and problems.
and then after he actually SHOT the gun:.... "no complaints". Tell you what v... buy one and then give a FIRST hand review of it! A thorough one! then maybe I will think you "know what your talking about" Otherwise... you have NO! cred...
DammitBoy
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Give it a rest already. I'm sure everybody got your point.
Magnumite
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It seems the gun was fine. The guy liked it. No undue wear. Apparently the slide and frame weren't soft. Should we continue to hate the gun?
In all seriousness, I am curious about how and in what position the slide got stuck. He never indicated if it occurred without the barrel and slide pin. For all we know, he may have bumped the right side of the slide stop with his right finger as he was racking it. I agree...more info. Pics of the slide and frame rails would be interesting.
FWIW, a small bit of galling from fitting, while not desirable, will not hinder if arrested and polished. I learned this on the first all stainless 1911 I built. It remains one of my tightest and most accurate pistols. And is absolutely reliable.
In all seriousness, I am curious about how and in what position the slide got stuck. He never indicated if it occurred without the barrel and slide pin. For all we know, he may have bumped the right side of the slide stop with his right finger as he was racking it. I agree...more info. Pics of the slide and frame rails would be interesting.
FWIW, a small bit of galling from fitting, while not desirable, will not hinder if arrested and polished. I learned this on the first all stainless 1911 I built. It remains one of my tightest and most accurate pistols. And is absolutely reliable.
Skylerbone
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The OP did ask who would buy one tomorrow if they offered a lightweight carry model. Can no one accept a no response qualified by a review of an end user who experienced a problem? Should the reasonable expectation of a carry pistol be some assembly required? How about if it doesn't work, send it in?
Research does not always net your desired results. Another reason climatologists have to fake it. Keep an open mind and one eye out for future reported problems, note the trend, good or bad, and make an informed decision.
Research does not always net your desired results. Another reason climatologists have to fake it. Keep an open mind and one eye out for future reported problems, note the trend, good or bad, and make an informed decision.
Tomcat47
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Personally Im waiting for one to come in at local Gun Shop.
I think they look good, they are entering the market as an entry level 1911.
Ruger will not fail at this task! , They will find their flaws and weaknesses and will rectify them as they always have.
I remember issues with the P89 and it mostly stemmed form lack of deburring internal parts which became a non issue very shortly and it is a very reliable pistol.
I just purchased a Taurus PT1911, I am very satisfied with it and I will most definately have a Ruger 1911 soon.
I like it and its a Ruger!
The platform has its pros/cons/ and problems depending on what you are looking for. If you want a competition grade 1911 look above entry level pricing! You are not going to get a Wilson or Colt or Ed Brown for $700 nor should you expect a entry level 1911 to be as such!
A good Shooter! Dependable! Accurate! Yes!
Match Grade - No!
My 2 cents...
I think they look good, they are entering the market as an entry level 1911.
Ruger will not fail at this task! , They will find their flaws and weaknesses and will rectify them as they always have.
I remember issues with the P89 and it mostly stemmed form lack of deburring internal parts which became a non issue very shortly and it is a very reliable pistol.
I just purchased a Taurus PT1911, I am very satisfied with it and I will most definately have a Ruger 1911 soon.
I like it and its a Ruger!
The platform has its pros/cons/ and problems depending on what you are looking for. If you want a competition grade 1911 look above entry level pricing! You are not going to get a Wilson or Colt or Ed Brown for $700 nor should you expect a entry level 1911 to be as such!
A good Shooter! Dependable! Accurate! Yes!
Match Grade - No!
My 2 cents...
Magnumite
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Skylerbone, valid point. I can answer for myself. I prefer the heavier steel frames and prefer 5" guns. But if Maryland were to pass CCW permits laws, I would opt for the alloy frame just for the purpose of carry. I prefer the aluminum over polymer frame concept. Just a little more weight and rigidity for shooting stability.
I would consider the Caspian format, 4 to 4.25" barrel and the shorter frame for the Colt officers model...I think they call it the CCO. I've been pondering building that gun, but have a difficult time moving beyond using the 5" barreled guns. I had two 4" guns in the past, but the didn't light my fire.
I would consider the Caspian format, 4 to 4.25" barrel and the shorter frame for the Colt officers model...I think they call it the CCO. I've been pondering building that gun, but have a difficult time moving beyond using the 5" barreled guns. I had two 4" guns in the past, but the didn't light my fire.
RustyFN
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Seems to me you keep forgetting all of the problems he had to deal with to get it to shoot. I'm with 918V and I would send it back for Ruger to make it right. And no I'm not a Ruger hater, I own a few Ruger's.
ISO1600
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Hey 918V, i was the poster of that other thread, and the gun has been running fine since. After around 500 rounds through it, i haven't had a single failure of any sort, and can no longer see anything that looks irregular on the slide rails.
I am 100% satisfied with this pistol, it even changed my mind on stainless finish.
I put Hogue extreme G10 slimlines on it last night. The stock grip screw bushings were so soft, must have been made of butter lol.
IMG_3493 by Chris.jpg, on Flickr
I am 100% satisfied with this pistol, it even changed my mind on stainless finish.
I put Hogue extreme G10 slimlines on it last night. The stock grip screw bushings were so soft, must have been made of butter lol.
IMG_3493 by Chris.jpg, on Flickr
ISO1600
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as for when/how the slide was sticking-
It would get stuck with the barrel/spring etc in or out, to the rear. I put the stripped slide on the frame and it was still getting stuck while back- while it was ontop of the disconnector. It would not get stuck all the way back, but partially. The problem completely stopped after putting the tiniest amount of Tetra grease on it and racking it once.
It would get stuck with the barrel/spring etc in or out, to the rear. I put the stripped slide on the frame and it was still getting stuck while back- while it was ontop of the disconnector. It would not get stuck all the way back, but partially. The problem completely stopped after putting the tiniest amount of Tetra grease on it and racking it once.
ISO1600
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Skyler, i bought both the Metro and the Ruger in such a short time because my wife is stubborn and wants her own guns (understandable). She also loves Rugers. While i was waiting on a SR1911 from one shop, another popped up for a great price. In that time of waiting, i decided to get a cheap GI style 1911 for myself.
I have plenty of experience shooting and owning guns, just new to 1911's.
I have plenty of experience shooting and owning guns, just new to 1911's.
Can you post a macro shot of the rails?
My issue is with Ruger making rookie mistakes when introducing a new gun to market. Ruger should produce an alloy that works with common lubricants, not some specialty grease.
I also hope it don't start to peen.
Other than that, it looks like a nice gun.
ISO1600
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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=593814
918v, i posted pics on my other thread.
I think it looks and shoots great so far, since that slight issue at first has been cleared up. I'll admit i was pretty F'n ticked at first. I could have sent it back, yes, but i am simply not patient enough to do that.
918v, i posted pics on my other thread.
I think it looks and shoots great so far, since that slight issue at first has been cleared up. I'll admit i was pretty F'n ticked at first. I could have sent it back, yes, but i am simply not patient enough to do that.
CZF
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I agree with the posts calling for a Commander or CCO sized gun in the
near future.
Same for a 9mm version.
Would any of you buy a SR1911 in .38 Super?
In regard to the LCP and LC9 track record to date.
I've yet to fire my LCP but trust that the guy who sold me to fired it
because he told me that it stings a bit.
He bought it NIB and put 40 rounds of factory JHP through it.
The LC9 that we bought last month was NIB and ran like a charm with the limited time and ammo put through it, including smoking hot
Double Tap +P loads.
My wife hated the long DAO, and I hated the loaded chamber indicator.
That Said..
by all indications, it was what a Ruger slimline 9mm should be.
1.Smaller than the SR9 Compact, but bigger than the .380.
2.Lighter than the SR9s, and a bit heavier than the LCP w/CT.
3.Totally reliable with all loads tested, as a Ruger should be.
The guy we soon sold it to loves it! He now has 2 of them.
Going back to the SR1911, there seems to be plenty of people not holding of on buying within the first year of release..and are grabbing the new .45s as they roll into stores.
That said, even though I'd like (as do others) a black or blued gun,
and also in 9mm or .38 Super.
I would have no qualms in buying a Commander sized stainless gun
if they offered them in July.
So far...it Looks like there is another high quality American made 1911 on the market that actually works,
and is half the price of a Dan Wesson.
near future.
Same for a 9mm version.
Would any of you buy a SR1911 in .38 Super?
In regard to the LCP and LC9 track record to date.
I've yet to fire my LCP but trust that the guy who sold me to fired it
because he told me that it stings a bit.
He bought it NIB and put 40 rounds of factory JHP through it.
The LC9 that we bought last month was NIB and ran like a charm with the limited time and ammo put through it, including smoking hot
Double Tap +P loads.
My wife hated the long DAO, and I hated the loaded chamber indicator.
That Said..
by all indications, it was what a Ruger slimline 9mm should be.
1.Smaller than the SR9 Compact, but bigger than the .380.
2.Lighter than the SR9s, and a bit heavier than the LCP w/CT.
3.Totally reliable with all loads tested, as a Ruger should be.
The guy we soon sold it to loves it! He now has 2 of them.
Going back to the SR1911, there seems to be plenty of people not holding of on buying within the first year of release..and are grabbing the new .45s as they roll into stores.
That said, even though I'd like (as do others) a black or blued gun,
and also in 9mm or .38 Super.
I would have no qualms in buying a Commander sized stainless gun
if they offered them in July.
So far...it Looks like there is another high quality American made 1911 on the market that actually works,
and is half the price of a Dan Wesson.
Apocalypse-Now
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not for me. cast frame 1911's aren't my cup of tea
(plus i've owned several rugers before and based on those experiences will never own another.)
i know two friends that like theirs though
i'll stick to springfield armory operators.
(plus i've owned several rugers before and based on those experiences will never own another.)
i know two friends that like theirs though
i'll stick to springfield armory operators.
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Skylerbone
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No Caspian build in your future.
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