Run in with LEO last night, not too happy....

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Man, I feel for you, 50 Freak. I'd tell my "Respect my AUTHORI-TAI!!!" JBT story, but it'd sound a lot like the others posted, so I wont bother.

Cops. :rolleyes:

I own properties. A couple are in low income neighborhoods, and drug dealers are starting to show up. Tenants are complaining, landlords are liable. I call the local PD and explain the situation to them, hoping for help, hoping to get transferred to the Narcs or something.

"Is this an emergency?" they ask.

"No, but...."

"Then I'm sorry, but there's nothing I can do." Click.

My tenants have also called. Same story.

That's just the latest. I've called them numerous times for various reasons (being a landlord, you run into all kinds of stuff), and without fail, they work their asses off trying to find reasons NOT to help. Without fail.

I want to believe in cops, I really do. They make it so damn hard, though.

I've come to expect nothing but traffic violation harassment from them. I don't expect their help, their protection, or their professionalism. That way, if by some chance I am the beneficiary of any of the above, I will be pleasantly surprised.

That's just the sad truth. :(

Good luck with your complaint, 50 Freak. Make it stick.
 
Before this gets to everyone swapping their bad LEO stories. I have to say I have some really good friends that are LEO. A old highschool buddy of mine is an Orange Co. Deputy and the guy I shoot tactical carbine with is a San Jose LEO.

The two LEO's that trained me for my CCW were two of the nicest guys I met. They were SWAT trainers for a dept way up in northern Kali. Funny how when they found out I was moving close to SF, they warned me about the "city cops". Guess there was some truth to their advice. We had a heck of a day testing my 458 Tromix, and 50 cal against an old buick on their LEO range. :evil: :evil:
 
Question is, am I blowing this all out of proportions? I don't have a lot of run in with LEO's and don't know if this is a-typical of this dept.
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No, you just confused the officer with somebody who actually gives a flying crap about the safety of people on the highway. BTW, that reckless driving threat was load of crap.

I just want to know who you had to kill to get a CCW permit in northern kali. Those things are more rare than honest politicians.
 
Guy's got a point, still irks me to hear someone who served our country get abused by same country's system.
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Clearly, you have never dealt with the VA (veterans administration). "Abusing those who served our country" is actually their mission statement.:barf:
 
Your sister was careless and you commited a violation and you are the victim here?
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I wonder what you do for a living? The point of the original post was that authorites who carry a gun and a badge should not be verbally abusive of citizens. period. It is both unnecessary and just plain bad manners. lst time I checked, having civil manners didn't cost a penny extra.
 
"The CHP commited purjury"

Any LEO found guilty of purjury should be executed. No exceptions no appeal. Because of their position police officers should be held to a higher standard, if they lie under oath and violate the system they were entrusted to protect, death is the only suitable punishment.

We should have secret police who's only job and power is to peform sting operations on the "normal" police. These cops of the cops would have no authority with respect to normal citizens, only police officers. Entrap those lying @#%@#$ left and right, stick 'em all in the chair and throw the switch. :fire:

P.S. Before throwing the switch, take out their salvagable organs, sell them, and give the proceeds back to all the families who's lives these people have ruined.
 
Because of their position police officers should be held to a higher standard, if they lie under oath and violate the system they were entrusted to protect, death is the only suitable punishment.
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I'm sure that is sarcasm, but you might be surprised to learn the vast majority of LE's awould agree with the first part of the statement:

"Because of their position police officers should be held to a higher standard."

Most of them do hold themselves to a higher standard, and they probably dislike the ones who don't more than you do.
 
"Any LEO found guilty of purjury should be executed. "

Wow, pretty harsh. How about just a public flogging and some cell time with bubba.:evil:

Now any politician that is guilty of purjury should in my opinion be executed. We wouldn't have that bastard Clinton around anymore. And it would be a real "incentive" for politicians to stay honest
 
I don't think it's too harsh. It's hard enough for cops to be prosecuted since they're practically sleeping with the DA and with the blue wall of silence and all. With the trust society puts into cops, if that trust is violated, and by some MIRACLE exposed, they should pay the ultimate price. Cops and politicians should be literally scared to death of betraying the public they have sworn to protect/represent. At least then they might be more likely to keep in line. The lowest form of life is a dishonest cop/judge/politician.


Don't shoot.... Let 'em burn!
 
It sounds like a lot of people here are of the opinion that if you run out of gas it's because you're an idiot, sometimes that's not the case. the one time I ran out of gas it was because the gauge was off, normally I fill up when I get down to half a tank, for one reason or another I let it get down to 1/4 tank which I had never done with that car (my old car usually had a good 30 miles left on the E) this car was dead empty at the 1/4 tank mark.

I had quite a different experience though, it was during the day on I-5 and as I was walking to the gas station a WSP officer picked me up but had to drop me off when he got a call. then the strangest thing happened, an old friend of mine who drove short-haul to portland was on his way back and saw me and took me over to get some gas.
 
jfruser,

Garland PD seems to have a relatively bad reputation in the area. Can't recall ever hearing anything bad about Richardson PD. On the other hand, I don't know anyone who lives there.
 
That seems to beq

a pretty standard response from the police today. They are more concerned with writting tickets then helping people.
 
This is an anti LEO post! (GASP!!!)

I'm thinking that getting one of those mini-cassette recorders would be a good idea for everyone so as to document what occurred for future reference.
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They’d find that thing so fast when they search you; and then go ABSOLUTELY APE ????!

I've driven Highway 280 hundreds of times in both directions. No matter where you stop on that road, you're not safe. It's a beautiful road, but there are far, far too many criminals on it.
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I think you mean “far to many copsâ€.

I’ve never driven 280, I live in Florida. And for that matter I’ve never had a speeding ticket. I have however had two run-ins with cops. One was bad and the other was really bad. I used to think all that police brutality was pure BS. I guess you think a little different when it’s you who might be the next Rodney King.

He will still get to prove his story to a judge and, perhaps, hear this judge ream the officer for his "professionalism."
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Or he’ll show up this nice, friendly, mild mannered, calm, cool, soft spoken individual. And you’ll be up front, terrified, stuck in this intimidating situation, stumbling all over the place. And to top it all off, you’ll get to pay court costs!

This is a very typical run in with an LEO. The funny thing is I’ve never had a bad experience with a criminal. My best friend is a convicted felon; she’s getting off house arrest in the next two months. Boy does she ever have some stories.

You can write letters, make phone calls, or do what ever you want, but you’ll probably just waste your time. I’m a med student, so time is the one thing I have very little of right now. Just remember this incident, it’s a very typical one. You will flash back to this from now on every time you see one. I guess it just takes a certain personality type to become a cop!

Be careful out there man. They are out to get you.

Dan
 
I gotta tell you....Management not backing up officers in the field is epidemic. If you complain...you may hear nothing from the Dept. But I can PROMISE you the officers will hear about it. Especially a Sheriff Dept. They are elected and very suseptable to public sway of opinion. But once in a while....they won't do a thing. Very rare though.

1.) make a formal complaint to either the Asst. Deputy in Charge of Patrol or Deputy in Charge or Sheriff himself.

2.) contest the ticket...drag him into court with you.

3.) move to Texas....we don't leave women stranded on the highway.:D
 
Well, don't know if I already posted this. Spoke to the "Detective Sargent" and told him my story, yesterday. He mailed me a complaint form right after getting off the phone I guess, as it was in my mail box when I came home from work today. I'm going to fill that sucker out and try my best to make it stick.

Funny, he even told me to fight the ticket:what: He said if he was the ticketing officer, he would not have ticketed me, but helped in looking for my sis & wife. Said he was a family man and completely understood.

Don't know if he was blowing smoke up my A$$, but he did seem very sincere.
 
50freak,

Yeah some Norcal police agencies have regular police officers who specialize in detective work but not quite passed a Sgt's exam or a Sgt's payscale maybe higher than plain old detective/officer. Some cities even have various Sgt. levels (1-3).

Your dad could have won big money from the CHP for the false arrest, recovery of court costs and some compensation. Well he did the worst thing possible, get an attorney out of a phonebook..you should always bring a experienced attorney..pay the extra $1000 in his travel/expense.

50% of San Francisco's police are the shortest, most clueless and incompetent officers around norcal. It doesn't take much to be a officer in S.F., just be a minority.

Always contest the ticket, when possible bring an attorney, always ask for a Jury trial too.

The complaint divisionsgt's usually aren't buddy-buddy with the regular beat cop.
 
50Freak...didn't I tell you that supe's don't back up line officers?:D

Glad to see it's universal.:rolleyes:
 
Just my opinion but two things:
1) The officers shouldn't have been rude that's not their prerogative, but you broke the law, let the judge decide if your violation was mitigated
2) If you felt that your wife and sister were truly in imminent danger, then you should have taken the time to shift the load in your car to make room for them.

Regardless, good luck to you and yours
 
BTW, that reckless driving threat was load of crap.
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I'd bet it wasn't. My impression is they can call anything they want to reckless. I got one for doing a u-turn across the median.

I was in the left turn lane waiting for the light to do a U turn. When the light changed, a car in front of me in line broke down and the driver got out and raised the hood. Rather than try and find a break in the traffic in the inner lane, I turned around there. Because of the left turn light there was NO oncoming traffic at all, so I thought it would be safer than squeezing into moving traffic to the right.

BTW, He may have called in the dead car, but he never went over to help them.

The officer did not threaten me at all, he just wrote it up as reckless driving. I was surprised but figured the judge would see it was a reasonable thing to do. I was surprised again when the judge agreed with the officer.

I too chalked it up to expensive experience, but I wonder if the judicial system (LEOs included) realizes the damage they do to public trust when they go the revenue route instead of the public safety route? I could give you a list of things that show more concern for money than public safety, but I'll cut it short and say that in the long run this ruins respect for the law when it's apparent that safety isn't the issue.
 
The officer did not threaten me at all, he just wrote it up as reckless driving..
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What I was actually saying is that threatening to haul somebody to jail for that particular offense just because the officer considered it "reckless driving" is a load of crap. he can certainly issue a ticket for it (as they did in your case) but arresting somebody for it would be out of the question.

I was surprised again when the judge agreed with the officer.
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Really? You were surprised? In Kali, we don't get to tell it to the judge. To save money they use a "Commissioner of the Court" to hear cases. I'm not sure where they find them, but I did notice one nodding off and mumbling "Do you want fries with that?"

I have been in traffic court two times in 25 years and both were (seriously) completely bogus offenses. Since my name starts with "S", I am usually called near the end so I hear all the cases. You know how many are ever found innocent? NONE! ZERO! ZIP! You know what happens if the officer doesn't show up? You think you would win.... instead, the judge simply sets another date and you are screwed out of the days work you lost to come and fight the ticket. One guy got very hot over that and "was removed".

I am the only person I have ever seen beat a charge here in traffic court.... I showed proof to the court that the officer could not even have witnessed my position in traffic from where he was (which was true). The "commissioner" though for a momemnt and held up the drawing and asked the officer: "Is this where you were?" he reluctantly admitted it. The commish then said: "Well, I'm going to have to dismiss the charge." My heart jumped, some folks applauded. Then the commish said: "But, based on evidence I find you guilty of 22350A and the fine is the same."

Huh? 22350A is a statute that says "Driving in manner which may be unsafe for conditions." In other words, you are automatically guilty of 22350A anytime they want to write it up. It's the old fallback violation when you haven't actually done anything illegal but you pissed off the cop.

So, I scored a moral victory but still got screwed.
 
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