S&W Response safety recall Feb 2024

[zaitcev]

S&W recalled Response for a danger or out-of-battery detonation. See the announcement:

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recall/sw-response-consumer-safety-alert

The 9mm OOB fire is not very dramatic. The troops had OOB in SMGs in WW2 all the time. Chamber dirty, cartridge does not go all the way in, fixed firing pin, and kaboom. So, no big deal in a big war. But this gun is not going to survive, and you can get injured if you're unlucky. Here's a video of S&W Response OOB event by Mrgunsngear:

Smith & Wesson Response AR-9

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rumble.com

Have a thread on S&W Response on the forum, but the lead message cannot be edited anymore, hence the announcement. Link:

The New S&W “Response” 9mm carbine

I got an email from Smith & Wesson this morning. They just announced a new 9mm carbine that takes other magazines including Glock. It looks interesting. https://www.smith-wesson.com/response

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[Pat Riot]

Thank you @zaitcev

 

[BlueHeelerFl]

S&W recalled Response for a danger or out-of-battery detonation. See the announcement:

https://www.smith-wesson.com/safety/recall/sw-response-consumer-safety-alert

The 9mm OOB fire is not very dramatic. The troops had OOB in SMGs in WW2 all the time. Chamber dirty, cartridge does not go all the way in, fixed firing pin, and kaboom. So, no big deal in a big war. But this gun is not going to survive, and you can get injured if you're unlucky. Here's a video of S&W Response OOB event by Mrgunsngear:

Smith & Wesson Response AR-9

Cheapest I know of to buy one: https://bit.ly/3RNGEOs Nine Line Apparel shirts [including Back In Brass] (discount code MRGUNS20): https://mrgunsngear.org/3oMJ9Tm Twitter.com/mrgunsngear Telegram: htt

rumble.com

Have a thread on S&W Response on the forum, but the lead message cannot be edited anymore, hence the announcement. Link:

The New S&W “Response” 9mm carbine

I got an email from Smith & Wesson this morning. They just announced a new 9mm carbine that takes other magazines including Glock. It looks interesting. https://www.smith-wesson.com/response

www.thehighroad.org

That would be scary. Lucky he did not get hurt

 

[js8588]

Good old American companies...

 

[BreechFace]

Well, it's bound to happen with direct blowback designs, throw in the mix of desiring reliability with all power levels of ammuntion and a consumers desire to push this into a SD role with ragged edge defensive loads.

But they sure are cheap and easy to make.

 

[BreechFace]

Is it just me or does it look like they changed from a forged bolt to a cast bolt on the recall fix?

 

[zaitcev]

Well, it's bound to happen with direct blowback designs ...

Blowback designs can be OOB safe. Look at Ruger PC Carbine or Henry Homesteader for example, They use a very simple geometric safety by using a distance between the rear of the firing pin and the bottom of the bolt. If the bolt is even a little out of the battery, the hammer cannot reach the firing pin. The reason why blowback ARs are not safe, even when made by most reputable manufacturers,

The safety can be provided mechanically in a blowback action. For example, something like the Glock's safety button or firing pin block may be employed. I considered taking out a patent for a certain alternative, but then there's hardly any point. Look at millions of shooters happy with their certainly unsafe AR9s. They will not welcome an additional expense to fix a problem they don't think matters. The downside is that any kind of OOB safety in AR9 will convert all the marginal conditions into failures to fire.