Sabots to load 223 in a 30cal?

[pinetree64]

Remington use to make the Accelerator. A 223 sabot round for 30-06. A few years ago a saw that someone made these sabots and one could load and shoot 223 bullets. I like to reload and thought this might be a neat project. Any know anthing about these?

Thanks,
tjg

 

[Johnny Guest]

Sure - - -

I've seen 'em for sale in bulk. Blue Star loading component folks out of Arkansas set up at Dallas Market Hall Gun Show and usually have at least one .50 Cal ammo box of the sabots and 55 gr. SP bullets out. I don't know other shows there they set up, though. You might want to check the Widner's or Midway or Natchez Shoothers' Supply catalogs or wed sites, though.

I think Blue Star guys told me these were Remington brand--the one's Rem uses to load the Accelerators in .30'06 and .30-30. Price seemed reasonable - - Somewhere between regular .22 CF varmint bullets and .308 bullets.

This is a fairly useable deal--Not super accurate-- I think they were hitting about 1.5 to 2 inches fom my .30'05 at 100 yards--More accurate than I'd heard, though.

I gave it some thought but never loaded any of them.

Best of luck
Johnny

 

[loren]

sabots

I think there great. I bought from www.eabco.com

They also have an insert to put in chamber for 06 to shoot 7.62 x 39

My load is 52 gr of imr 4895 its supposed to push it at 4,000 fps
Its a great load to shoot, little recoil and fun to reach out the yardage.

 

[winwun]

I also have heard that they are not overly accurate, but have no personal experience on the matter. An interesting question, what would be the impact on a crime scene where the bullet had no rifling marks?

 

[blades67]

When they find the sabot, they'll have rifling marks to compare.

 

[winwun]

Does anyone have any ideas on how soon the sabot drops off? I am sure it would be different for different calibers. Any ideas?

 

[GooseGestapo]

The sabots are usually around 50 to 75 feet from muzzle, much like the muzzle loader sabots. Occasionally will fly off at up to 45deg. angle from line of fire.

I shot some of the Remington's several years back, too. Mine chrono'd at 3,955 from a 24" Interarms Mk-X . Accuracy was not up to hope's at around 2-3" at 100yds. This rifle in .30-'06 was good for 1/2" with 168gr. Sierra BTHP and 56.5gr of IMR-4350. It's now a slightly less accurate, but substantially heavier-hitting .338/06. (.75-1.25" w/200 Hornady-SP over 54.0gr of Re-15 or 61.0gr of H414 for 2,830fps- 3,550ft/lbs)

The Rem. sabots were mildly popular for poaching deer at night in my neck of the woods in the early '80's. All you had to do was after finding the dead deer was to figure out generally where the shot came from and a good search dog would quickly find the sabot.
Hence, -not good for nefarious use.