So, I was at an auction the other day, and happened across a like new Saiga .410. Well, needless to say, $445 later she came home with me. Only came with a 4 round mag, so, of course, I had to order a 15 round stick, and 30 round drum. Well, I'm happy to report, albeit expensive to shoot at $8/ box, it sure is fun, and operates flawless.
Saiga 410
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Big7
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More like $14.00 per box here.
Just out of curiosity what are they good for?
I have plenty of toys just cause' so I understand that part.
Well, what ever you use a 410 for, just don't have to load as often.. It's really pretty accurate, I shot some clay pigeons with it. I plan on using it for rabbit hunting. You can tag out before having to reload!
One of the few perks of having a gun shop, I get them at wholesale.
Carl N. Brown
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For some inexplicable reason .410 is the most expensive round I find on the shelves. Weird since everyone considers it a "beginner's gun".
(I have a M6 Scout .22LR/.410 over under and I scout for good prices on .410 but seldomn find them. The .45 LC CCI Shotshells pattern nicely for vermin control purposes.)
Oh, on opening post, the Saiga shotguns do have a great reputation for reliability. Sounds like a good buy.
(I have a M6 Scout .22LR/.410 over under and I scout for good prices on .410 but seldomn find them. The .45 LC CCI Shotshells pattern nicely for vermin control purposes.)
Oh, on opening post, the Saiga shotguns do have a great reputation for reliability. Sounds like a good buy.
In reality, the .410 an expert's small game getter. It's not terrible as a (<7yd) close dedicated SD round either.
kBob
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I have yet to shoot one of these but they do interest me. I do wonder about the laws on making an import take large magzines and the need for parts replacements with US parts when doing so. Do these laws not apply to shotguns?
Back when there was a good supply of these things I saw folks cutting them down to regular AKM size and adding a pistol grip while moving the trigger and even putting on a folding stock. Rather liked the idea actually.
Since seeing this thread I googled and looked over the images and saw that there were conversions that did not move the trigger that had the pistol grip back on the buttstock attachment and those actually did not look bad either, folder looked CAR15-sh on one such and FN FAL-ish on another. Short legal barrel and easily opened folder would seem to make this a handy to store gun. .410 buckshot loads and seven rounds semi auto would seem to make this a vary do able HD gun.
One gun shown had a wooden fixed stock that was very SVD-ish as well and wood furniture. Not bad looking actually, but LOOOONNNGGG.
To bad they are not being imported thanks to politics.
Will say I am amazed the Chinese have not imported a model, perhaps even via some American company......I can see it ,the Savage "Chut'em Up 7" to go with all the Chinese pumps we are seeing.
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Back when there was a good supply of these things I saw folks cutting them down to regular AKM size and adding a pistol grip while moving the trigger and even putting on a folding stock. Rather liked the idea actually.
Since seeing this thread I googled and looked over the images and saw that there were conversions that did not move the trigger that had the pistol grip back on the buttstock attachment and those actually did not look bad either, folder looked CAR15-sh on one such and FN FAL-ish on another. Short legal barrel and easily opened folder would seem to make this a handy to store gun. .410 buckshot loads and seven rounds semi auto would seem to make this a vary do able HD gun.
One gun shown had a wooden fixed stock that was very SVD-ish as well and wood furniture. Not bad looking actually, but LOOOONNNGGG.
To bad they are not being imported thanks to politics.
Will say I am amazed the Chinese have not imported a model, perhaps even via some American company......I can see it ,the Savage "Chut'em Up 7" to go with all the Chinese pumps we are seeing.
-kBob
I attribute the high price of .410 shells to the popularity of pistols such as the Governor and the Judge. I have a couple of .410s that I bought back in the middle 60s and ammo prices used to be quite reasonable.
.410 shells have been quite expensive compared to 12 and 20 for quite some time. I do most of my small game hunting with my Mossberg 500 in .410. I started reloading 410 shells back in the mid 90's. Even with current price of components, I can still reload a box for $4.50 to $5.00. The cost is $5.00 if I have to buy new hulls. This is for reloading 3" hulls with 11/16oz of #7 1/2 shot using new Cheddite hulls, Claybuster wads, and Hodgdon H110 powder.
Last I figured up I could do a box of .410 AA target loads with 1/2oz of shot for about $2.95, and a box of 12 gauge target loads for about $3.40. Both handloads are as good as the premier AA's or Remingtons that are running good components. Hard target shot is going for about $29 a bag here and I buy wads by the case of 5000 as well as primers and 8# jugs of powder.
Bad thing about .410 hulls is you only get about 8-10 good reloads out of them before they are losing petals and leaking shot. I have found AA's are the best with Remington about 3 less reloads.
Walmart has new AA's at $9.50 here. Couple months ago I bought a flat of 10 boxes from Midsouth Shooters Supply for about $9 a box + shipping and Winchester had the $2 rebate per box, so I got them for about $7.30.
Bad thing about .410 hulls is you only get about 8-10 good reloads out of them before they are losing petals and leaking shot. I have found AA's are the best with Remington about 3 less reloads.
Walmart has new AA's at $9.50 here. Couple months ago I bought a flat of 10 boxes from Midsouth Shooters Supply for about $9 a box + shipping and Winchester had the $2 rebate per box, so I got them for about $7.30.
KevininPa
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They are fun shotguns. I have one n a Kushnapup stock. Going to put it in a wooden sporter stock soon. Have a SKS being made into a bullpup for my bullpup fun. Going to use the Saiga for small game and pest control.
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