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gotboostvr
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I've had great experiences with Andro Corp and their owner.
They make some quality rifles, for $400 that's got to be one of the best deals for an AR I've ever seen.
They make some quality rifles, for $400 that's got to be one of the best deals for an AR I've ever seen.
45/30-06OKIE
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You gotta wonder where the cost savings is coming from on these super cheap AR15s... My barrel, gas block and gas tube together was almost that much for my 223 DMR I built.
troy fairweather
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Don't think it's savings it's just all others mark up stuff so much. Does a high end really cost 5-6 times what the cheaper one does.
R.W.Dale
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You say cost savings. I say likely slightly more realistically priced
The days of the cool tax on the AR platform are long long gone
45/30-06OKIE
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Yeah I guess raw material cost would be the same but QC, R&D and customer service do have a cost so there's that. I personally tend to stick brands that I've used before and trust would be good out of the box. However, I've been burned by cheap stuff before, and expensive stuff before, so I just chalk it up to my horrible luck.
45/30-06OKIE
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So your saying you'd rather have an Andro Corp over an Areo Precision? Not bashing, just simply wondering. I'd rather have an Areo Precision IMHO. I've been impressed with their stuff. Now, I do have budget stuff also, like a DPMS AR15 10.5 5.56 upper on my Palmetto M4 clone lower with Fostech trigger.
R.W.Dale
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Can you please quote the text where I said that? Because I'm pretty darn sure I didn't say anything of the sort.
No matter how you cut it the raw material nor the machining nor the US employed labor on this theoretical Aero cost 10x as much. So this only leaves the profit margin Aero is trying to maintain.
I couldn't possibly care less about the the platform at this point in my life but if I did and you like mid to high end brands then you'd better get one now because a decade from now most makers won't exist
Not unlike flat screen TV's in the early 00s you are watching an industry transition from a high end luxury item to a commonly consumed community. Not everyone will survive this transition
MachIVshooter
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There are but a handful of forges and barrel makers supplying the industry, and it's just not that difficult to accomplish high precision final machining these days. Even a cheap Haas machine will hold good tolerances for quite a few years if maintained. I have a 29 year old Fadal 4020 that I use for finish machining my baffles and boosters after the 28 year old Mazak SQT15M turns them. We can still hold tenths if we really want to, though I usually don't adjust tool offsets until we're off by more than .001".
Point being, there's really not much difference, if any, between the economy parts and "premium" ones for many parts. Take the badging away, even someone with my experience and precision measuring tools will have a hard time (maybe impossibly difficult) distinguishing an Anderson or PSA receiver from a Colt, BCM, Aero, etc.
Barrels are where the biggest differences lie, but even the cheap ones are typically under 1.5 MOA with decent ammo. Oftentimes a cheaper unlined button rifled barrel proves more accurate than a hammer forged CL one, just not as resistant to corrosion.
45/30-06OKIE
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Yeah, I understand that affordable options can still be good quality, my two Mossberg Patriots (~$500 rifles) in 270 and 6.5 PRC are both laser beams with factory and handloaded ammo.
MachIVshooter
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We've had a number of Patriots and MVPs, built integrally suppressed guns on several of them. The Patriots have cheap feeling stocks, chintzy magazines and not the smoothest actions, but great triggers and they definitely shoot straight.
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45/30-06OKIE
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Yeah the mags aren't the most confidence inspiring lol. So if me and dad get a Class 03 SOT added to our FFL, can we have y'all integrally suppress my 270 and ship it back to us, as we would have the dealer license for having suppressors ,while I wait for the paperwork, or no? Cause that would be interesting for sure. Also, have y'all ever threaded an M1 Garand for a suppressor? You work for ECCO Machine right?
MachIVshooter
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Yes, it's my company, and yes, we can. We should take that to PM, though, so as not to hijack this thread.
Ignition Override
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No wonder the PrimaryArms price seems to be discounted. Expect more AR brands to see some discount, if not already widespread (I don't own any) depending upon inflation for materials.
Our gun shops are really Stuffed with guns; so many are unwanted after the 2020 "..sky is falling". For many gun types it is a soft market.
Stores often won't even offer to buy a very attractive, all-original used gun from a customer-
consignment only. A staffer told me that two days ago.
And with high prices for ammo, this doesn't seem to help certain aspects of centerfire semi-auto rifle sales. Go look at semi-auto .308s: new S.A. M1As, FALs (new DSAs), new PTR-91s. ------Tons of choices of new production varieties on Gunbroker, Atlantic Arms etc
But if you are "
Very, very late to the party
" regarding ammo And Any of these guns...., today's lowest-priced, brass-cased .308 ammo can total almost One Dollar per Round. Steel-cased with retail tax etc isn't much less. ...Thud....
Our gun shops are really Stuffed with guns; so many are unwanted after the 2020 "..sky is falling". For many gun types it is a soft market.
Stores often won't even offer to buy a very attractive, all-original used gun from a customer-
consignment only. A staffer told me that two days ago.And with high prices for ammo, this doesn't seem to help certain aspects of centerfire semi-auto rifle sales. Go look at semi-auto .308s: new S.A. M1As, FALs (new DSAs), new PTR-91s. ------Tons of choices of new production varieties on Gunbroker, Atlantic Arms etc
But if you are "
Very, very late to the party" regarding ammo And Any of these guns...., today's lowest-priced, brass-cased .308 ammo can total almost One Dollar per Round. Steel-cased with retail tax etc isn't much less. ...Thud....
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