Savage Duramaxx issues

[ocabj]

I posted this on another thread, but I figure it's best I make it's own dedicated thread.

I ordered the Bell & Calrson Savage Duramaxx stock from Brownell's and Cabelas and neither fit my Savage 10FP. I have the 10FP-LE2. I ordered the stock from Brownell's first and when I received it, it would not fit. The Savage I have has 3 screws: 1 takedown screw and 2 trigger guard screws (1 front 1 rear). The B&C stock did not have the hole for the rear trigger guard screw. Also, the receiver would not sit in all the way. When the barrel is flush with the stock channel, the rear of the receiver sticks out about a 1/3 of an inch. If you make it such that the receiver is flush with stock, the barrel is lifted out of the barrel. I returned it to Brownell's and stated that there must have been an error or mispackaging and ordered it from Cabelas because it was cheaper. I received the stock from Cabelas today and it is the same problem.

Anyone know what's up with this? I ordered the 7110-002 model (Short Action, Textured Black). Shouldn't this been a drop in fit?

Upon further inspection, it looks like the inlet for the action needs to be drilled somewhat in the towards the rear to accomodate the action, and a threaded hole drilled in for the rear action screw. No one mentioned this in a post. Is this standard procedure for this particular stock?

I just sent an email to B&C about this, too.

 

[LeadPumper]

DuraMax...

I too have ordered a B&C Duramax from Brownells for my 10FP. It fit fine with only light sanding to fully free float the barrel on the right side. Only two screws. Rear screw hole had to be drilled out, no biggy.

I suspect that the LE model you have uses a different stock type. Is it the newer Accutrigger model? It may not use the old stock, I know the newer ones use a different set of bases for the scope. Savage may be able to better shed light on this.

-LeadPumper

 

[ocabj]

Yes, mine has the Accutrigger. Apparently, this is what is hitting the inside rear of the action inlet. On my factory stock, it is drilled out to provide room for the Accutrigger spring. Looks like I have to dust off the drill press tonight.

And yes, the Accutrigger 10FPs have a rounded receiver for the top-rear, so the rear scope base needs to be round. My dealer who sold me the 10FP-LE2 immediately told me about this issue and told me which Leupold bases to get. Apparently, a lot of people were buying the bases for the non-Accutrigger 10FP and it was causing headaches.

 

[Gary H]

What did B&C say/do when you called them?

So, I was stuck with light sanding and the hassle of installing an aftermarket trigger. You are stuck with adapting the stock. You might still be ahead. The stock can be shaped easily.

 

[ocabj]

I emailed them better never got a response, so I just called them. Apparently, it's a known issue and they can do the modification for me, but I can do it myself. I just want to make sure I got the correct stock in the first place, before I start taking material off the stock.

 

[Shalako]

ocabj,
I think I know what you are talking about. I put my 12fv in a DuraMaxx about 2-3 weeks ago. At first it wanted to do the same thing as you describe. I kind of shimmied it forward and backward on the action until it squeezed into the proper alignment. After tightening it down, then taking it on and off about 12 times to install a SSS trigger, it goes on like a glove. Maybe yours has the same tight tolerance, or maybe your action might have a little burr somewhere.

I hope you get it working right for you, its a great stock.

ps. Uh, I kind of have to admit, though, that in my haste to put it on the first time, I drilled the rear trigger guard screw a little off center. This caused the trigger gaurd to be a little far forward in the recess and the action screw was rubbing on the stock pillar. I think it was flexing the action as groups were baaaad. I got the situation corrected, and everything is fine now with tight groups to prove it. Moral of the story, measure thrice, drill once!

 

[BamBam-31]

I ran into exactly the same problem. I took a dremel to the stock (the area right behind where the trigger sits, like you described, and a bit behind the area where the recoil lug sits). I took a bit too much out, so I also bedded those areas a little. I also had to sand the channel out slightly, but not much. Stock fit is now tight, and the rifle shoots like a beauty. Also had to drill out the second screw hole for triggerguard.

Not really difficult, just take your time with it. Take out only a little at a time. The stock is a bargain at the price, so I didn't mind the mods I had to do to get it right.

Good luck.

 

[ocabj]

The B&C stock is great. Installed it last night after I went at it with the drill press to get a section drilled out to allow the Accutrigger mechanism some room and drilled the hole for the rear trigger guard screw. Also had to sand off some material on the right side because it was touching the barrel.

Took it to the range today and it feels a lot better than the factory stock. Still breaking in the barrel though. Groups with 168gr Sierra BTHP are OK, but not great. 168gr Hornady A-Max are incredible! I put 3 rounds into the same hole at 50yds and 3 shot groups at 100yds were inside half an inch.

Now I'm thinking about getting a 10FP+Accutrigger in .223.

 

[Gary H]

The rifle is a really nice package..except original stock. The old style trigger was garbage.

 

[Master Blaster]

I am reviving the thread becasue I rec'd my Durramax from Midway on friday and I fitted my new LE2 10fp .308 so that the barrel is centered.
The problem was that the trigger / rear of the receiver was hitting the stock and the recess for the trigger was machined out crooked, that made the action sit crooked and caused the free floated barrel to hit the right side of the stock forend.

I took a wood working gouge and a small flat chissel, and deepened the little shelf and inletted the rear edge of the receiver so it sits straight, that completely eliminated the problem with the barrel hitting the right side of the forearm rather than floating in the center. Removing a small amount of the material in the far rear of the stock caused the whole action to sit straight. If you sanded ou the barrel channel to correct this problem and you look down the front of the gun you will see that the action is not centered in the stock. This also means that your action bolts are not holding the action against the pillars and could affect accuracy.


The stock is great and looks much more expensive that the $89 I paid, Its also much stiffer than the original and lines my eye up to the scope.
The pachmeyer decellorator pad that is fitted to the stock is also great much better than the hard rubber that was on the original.

 

[Master Blaster]

Update:

I called bell and carlson and spoke to their technical assistance guy.


The problem is not at the back of the action, its the fit of the recoil lug in the stock, a little bit of material needs to be removed from the left side of the slot, the lug sits in.

B&C is machining the slot a little too small in width right to left, so the left side of the lug is hitting and pushing the barrel to the right. B&C says that this is because of some variance of the lugs position when savage installs the barrel and barrel nut, the lug sits slightly to the left, causing the entire barrel and action to be canted to the right in the stock.

I will fix mine to night with a small woodworking gouge, and chisel.

My prior fix had helped a little but the barrel was not perfectly centered so I called B&C.

Dont sand out the barrel channel!!!!!!

 

[ocabj]

Master Blaster,

Thanks for the tip. I wish I called B&C about this. I tried taking some material off the right side awhile back, but only enough to make sure it wasn't touching. It was still totally off balance. I went ahead and used a file to dig out the left inlet for the recoil lug and it worked like a charm.

-j