I like the Rimz moon clips for casual shooting they're so easy to load and unload without tools.
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Only have one old, blued .45ACP revo, a 1917, it will headspace without moons. The stainless ones, even the 9mms, have been fine, but the Ti ones, not so much. Makes me wonder if Smith had some reservation about having the cartridges headspace on the titanium.All of the blued S&W 45 ACP revolvers were bored correctly so the 45 ACP cartridge could be used without clips of any sort. The clips were simply for extraction, something against which the extractor could push. It was not until the stainless series that SOME of the chambers wee sloppily cut or cut deep by design.
Kevin
Only have one old, blued .45ACP revo, a 1917, it will headspace without moons. The stainless ones, even the 9mms, have been fine, but the Ti ones, not so much. Makes me wonder if Smith had some reservation about having the cartridges headspace on the titanium.
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Great read, and thanks. I'll have an extra look at my 625s, and the 640. I generally use moons in any case, so I simply may not have noticed.Not that I am aware but that means very little as I am merely an observer. Some of the stainless series have issues. Some even have issues with some chambers work and the rest don’t! Considering the amount of automation involved this is very odd.
Here is a sidebar by Brian Pearce on the subject,
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Sorry about the highlighting, it is not my doing.
Kevin
Never had much trouble with .45ACP moons, but I have run into significant trouble with 9mms in moons. There must be more variation in those, considering all the places they're made. One more reason to have the tools to moon and demoon; some of the 9s take some persuading to get into their moon.At least with revolver cartridges, the rim thickness varies and moon clips are built for particular cases. Fortunately, I use lots of Rem and Starline cases for my 38 Special ammunition and they work with the same moon clip and I've settled on that head stamp cases.
Yes, I find 9mm case rims variable. I stumble into a few head stamps that will not fit my shell holder but they fit in the scrap bucket just fine.Never had much trouble with .45ACP moons, but I have run into significant trouble with 9mms in moons. There must be more variation in those, considering all the places they're made. One more reason to have the tools to moon and demoon; some of the 9s take some persuading to get into their moon.
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Nine millimeter brass with crimped in primers suffer a similar fate in the scrap bucket. Personally, I've an embarrassment of 9mm brass, so anything weird goes away.Yes, I find 9mm case rims variable. I stumble into a few head stamps that will not fit my shell holder but they fit in the scrap bucket just fine.
TK Custom makes two thicknesses of moon clips for 38 Special cases. R-P and Starline cases use one thickness, Hornady cases use another. Other brands can be hit or miss.
I've always used full moon clips in my S&W 1917. I have a commercial tube demooner that works like the one you made. Works great.I like the Ranch Products moon clips for my M610. I made my demooner from a golf club. View attachment 1179157
I learned about the Rimz clips on here and I've been using for several months. I'm very happy with these and they are very easy to use by hand, no tools needed.I like the Rimz moon clips for casual shooting they're so easy to load and unload without tools.