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I was watching the TV series Firefly and the accompanying movie Serenity on one of my days off recently. The guns in Firefly were a mish-mash of everything, from single actions to modern weapons gussied up to look futuristic. Serenity tried a lot harder to make the guns look different and futuristic, if still recognizable. The handguns seen in closeups were a 1911 with some kind of cover over the slide to change the look, as well as a J-Frame S&W in some kind of shell. Captain Reynolds of course has his trademark sidearm (which, admittedly, seems to have decidedly higher capacity than the stubby magazine would indicate), and the rustic look of old guns with futuristic bolt-ons remained.

Other shows have gone different routes. The new Battlestar Galactica (I don't watch it, but I've seen screenshots) pretty much used regular guns, many of which were chosen because of their high-tech look. One downside to this is that the Beretta CX4 ended up as an infantry arm, a role to which it is rather unsuited. Of course, it's not supposed to be a 9mm carbine, it's supposed to be some kind of advanced rifle, chosen because it looks swoopy.

Anyway, I got to thinking. If I were a prop and weapons guy on a sci-fi show, and had to pick and/or decorate weapons to make them fit in with the setting, what would I pick and how would I alter them?

Unlike a lot of shows and movies, I'd do my best to make the modifications at least seem functional in some way, in addition to changing the look enough for the weapons to seem at home with the rest of the props in the movie.

Fortunately, there's a lot of high-tech lookin' stuff out there now. :D

For instance, if I needed a big, mean-looking pistol that looked futuristic, a 1911 clone with the Urban Advantage Rail mounted on it would look good on camera. A Beretta 92 similarly equipped would suffice as well. It'd work especially well with a double stack 1911, though.

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Smith & Wesson makes a few revolvers that would fit in nicely as well, especially in a retro-rustic-futuristic setting like Firefly. The obvious example is the 327 M&P R8:

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But this Performance Center 629 would work too:

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Personally, I think the ultimate space gun revolver would be a 629, 5", but with a barrel profile similar to the above, but without the weights. Also, put on a picatinny rail instead of the weaver rail, and an unfluted cylinder. Do the thing up in some kind of dark gray or matte black finish, and it'd be great on-screen. (Hell, probably make a nice shooter too. :D )

The Steyr MA-1 looks pretty science-fiction, too:

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As does this little Kel-Tec with the laser:

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Shotguns are a little harder. If you could get your hands on a NeoStead, that'd be great, but they were never imported. Otherwise, that new one from SRM Arms I saw at shot, with the four magazine tubes, would work great. (No picture available.)

I do think that the Tromix Saiga would be a decent "space ship gun". Cramped quarters is where the shotgun comes into its own, and you rather want limited penetration on your ship. (As an aside, don't take cover behind a pipe marked "Liquid Sodium" or some such.)

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For submachine guns, the FN P90 is the obvious choice...

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...but I think the B&T MP9 could work also. Especially if some badguy carries it in the thigh holster that they have for it. :cool:

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In rifles, you've got the FS 2000:

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Needs no modification to look at home in the arms locker of a space ship! Also, the Kel-Tec RFB would make a great "hero" gun.

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A case could be made for some of the more recent iterations of the original sci-fi rifle, the Steyr AUG:

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Assuming your prop-guy could get his hands on one, the Russian OC-14 Groza would make a good, um, sci-fi equivalent to the present Kalashnikov: the cheap, reliable rifle that lacks polish but always works and is available everywhere. Failing that, an AKU-94 conversion could suffice.

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The Barrett 95 wouldn't look too out of place, especially if a bit of dialogue mentioned some kind of advanced armor-piercing explosive round, a bit better than what we've got now:

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Good for disabling the sensor dome of a parked enemy shuttle!

The DSR-1 series would also look good on screen:

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(Sorry for the huge picture on that one.)

Anyway, I'm just musing. If I ever become the prop and gun guy of a sci-fi project, you'll know what to look for. :D
 
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Cool post! That is quite a collection of pictures.

Y'know, some space-cowboy movies / shows have gone the other way, with guns that appear weirdly antiquated -- pirate pistols, sorta, though maybe they're pirate LASER pistols ;)

Good call on the Kel-Tec bullpup, esp., and the Barrett 95.

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Personally, I think the FS2000 and the AUG with the M203 look the most futuristic/nasty of the bunch. As far as the handguns go, it's a little difficult to get one that looks truly futuristic, but I think the S&W 327 TRR8/M&P8 look like they might be the ticket, especially if they had optics mounted up top and lights on the lower rail.

But then, now you've got my gimmes going again, that FS2000 looks sweet, but there ain't no way it's going to happen...
 
Best sci-fi guns ever are still the broomhandle mauser and Stirling SMGs from Star Wars.

Battlestar has done a pretty good job of showing a bunch of "futuristic" looking contemporary rifles. I actually like how they aren't using magic laser guns, but sticking to cartridge firearms, even as ship-based weapons. They're using FN Five-SeveNs as their sidearm, I've seen SA80s, UMPs, Skorpions, some sort of tactical sniper rifle, and what looked like either an 870 or 590 shotgun, plus the aforementioned Cx4. The Cx4 actually works pretty well, since the marines carrying it are dressed for CQB anyway, which should be an ideal environment for a carbine.
 
My favorite example to bring up is Han Solo's blaster in Star Wars. Clearly a Mauser C96, but definitely fits the character.

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My favorite example to bring up is Han Solo's blaster in Star Wars. Clearly a Mauser C96, but definitely fits the character.


Belus- Thats my picture from yourprops.com. Im Darthmoops on there. Thats really random that someone posted that picture on this forum.
 
Does anyone know where to get one of those DSR-1's? Or a ball park number on how much they cost?
 
There are only a handful of DSR-1 in the US. If you have to ask...

But you can get a Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout, which is reputed to be more accurate, and costs less ($3000-3500 range, not to bad given what a precision tactical rifle from a name maker will cost)

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Buy American!

http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/
 
1. I never noticed the...knobs the 5.7 has on it. What in God's name do they do?

2. I seem to remember another, older .22 pistol called the "Whitney Wolverine" that looked a lot like the Neo.

3. Already seen it...but it just takes the failcake.
 
Depends how futuristic, the AUG, DSR-1, FN2000 (with the flat-top) and the RFB could deffenatly fit the bill with more gadgetry hot-glued to them. All the other stuff looks too hum-drum for Sci-Fi, but could be OK for hard sci-fi (e.g. heros, albiet thats more fantasy)

Eg, can you tell that this is based ona S&W Revolver: 1.jpg

Of course the Good 'ol M1 SMG pulling double duty as a caseless futuristic assault rifle with underslung SPAS...err Grenade Launcher!: 24.jpg
 
I dunno, that Mateba Unica 6 looks more Steam-Punkish than SF to my eyes. Not that such is a bad thing by any means. :D

The Kel-Tec with the skelwank sight looks like a distant ancestor of Wynona.

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But my favorite SF weapon has got to be the PPG from Babylon 5. Small and easy to CCW, but packs a nasty bite, even against Shadows.

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Real weapons that look SF? Gots to be the FN P90. As wise man once said, "...This is a weapon of war. It is made to KILL your enemy".
 
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