scope/glass for medium and under target shooting

[eastbank]

I,ll admit I use a cheat sheet when using my long range rifles with big tubed high x scopes, with zero,s well marked. and still I mess up once in a while. eastbank.

 

[Klint Beastwood]

In fairness, recall these guys are shooting at torsos, not at golf balls. As I've eluded above, it's not uncommon for shooters to be able to print a smaller group on a large target than the size of target they could actually hit, in other words (since that sounds ridiculous), a guy can hang a 24" target at 1,000yrds and print a 12" group in the middle, but the 16" target right beside it will induce a boatload of misses. Hitting a deer in the heart at 600yrds is easier than hitting a prairie dog. It's all point-of-aim-reference - hitting the center of something big is far easier than hitting something small. A dozen or so buddies and I used to do an "egg shoot" copied from the PredatorMasters Convention Egg-shoot, a Grade A Large Egg is about 1.7" across by 2.2" tall, glued to golf tee's, seated in a target rack, so firing at 150yrds, you're talking a hair over 1MOA. Any of these guys and their rifles can print a sub-moa group on larger targets, most of them in the .5-.6moa ballpark, but hitting a target which is about the same size as your group is an entirely different game. Guys print sub-moa groups on my big steel all of the time, myself included, but the game is completely different when the target shrinks.

Unertl is a hard one to sneak past autocorrect, drives me nuts when "inertial" drops in, since not enough folks are familiar with Unertl to make the re-correct back in their head.

There’s an abundance of training that goes into being a sniper that I can vouch for on hand that is more than just torso related. Although if you are generalizing then, yes true. When it comes to that penny size precision the civilian side of shooting usually dominates. Which then brings me to yes, I agree with your reasoning behind target reference and size.
Haha I was thinking the same thing about the autocorrect when I noticed it on my post the other night. I thought about correcting the spelling and decided it wasn’t a big deal, people would get it.

 

[JD Pinardi]

Picher, I totally agree with you, leupold great glass, great optics, and you can't hate their taking care of buss.
I lost the adjustment cover on an older vx 2 scope they replaced it for free

 

[cdb1]

Didn’t used to but I now spend as much as I can afford on optics and have for some time. The older I get the better I appreciate them. With a budget of $1500.00 the world is your oyster. I’ve been fortunate to be able to look through a lot of glass and these would be the brands I’d look at:
Meopta
Leupold
Zeiss
Leica
Tract
Steiner

Don’t own a Leica but have used one. The reason I didn’t put Nightforce on the list is I personally don’t see as well through them as the others. Your eyes may be different. I’m not slamming them, I do believe Nightforce makes the toughest scope you can buy and if I were going into battle I’d want a Nightforce.