Second Amendment Crushes Gun Control Candidates in Midterm Elections

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http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Govern...s-Gun-Control-Candidates-In-Midterm-Elections

As the election returns came in on November 4 one thing was evident—the Second Amendment crushed gun control candidates in Senate and gubernatorial races around the country.

In so doing, the Second Amendment annihilated the left's relentless claim that 90 percent of Americans support more gun control.

On the gubernatorial level, in Arizona, pro-Second Amendment candidate Doug Ducey (R) beat gun control candidate Fred DuVaul (D). And in Florida, pro-Second Amendment incumbent Rick Scott (R) beat gun control candidate Charlie Crist. These victories were enhanced by the fact that Gabby Giffords and Mark Kelly endorsed DuVal and Giffords' gun control PAC gave $100,000 to Crist's campaign.

One funny note, though. When Crist in FL was running as a Republican, the NRA sent out bumper stickers saying "Sportsmen for Crist" and he was given a "A" rating at that time

And in West Virginia, NRA-endorsed Shelley Moore Capito (R) won, marking the first time that state has sent a Republican Senator to Washington DC in over five decades.

Way to go WV!
 
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I am hopefully optimistic that this is a ground swell of the people of America taking back what is constitutionally ours.

We must not gloat, or beat our chests, and keep a positive message moving forward.

WE need to build on this and show the country how commited we are to change for the good of our home.

be safe
 
I just can't believe Cuomo won. After the comments he made he doesn't deserve another term. I was hoping for a safe act reversal. I'm just Glad Ohio is safe for a few more years
 
Unfortunately Pennsylvania was not on the winning end of the vote. Tom Wolf was elected governor and he is pretty anti-gun. He's got a lot of other things on his plate, so hopefully gun control won't creep it's way on to his agenda. Fingers crossed!

Congratulations to all of the states that voted to support our rights!
 
While Ducey did win handily against Duval, I think it's telling to note that Duval received 41.4% of the vote in Arizona, which is one of the most liberty-loving states in the Union.

The steady influx of Californians, AARP members, and the spectre of the amnesty for illegals presents a huge risk to our freedom in the future.
 
The title of this is incorrect.

We didn't throw the Governors of CT or CO out. I 594 passed in WA. The candidates that won aren't dedicated 2A supporters.

The pro 2A movement didn't crush anyone since every place the 2A was an important factor WE lost.
 
The title came from the news article, not me so I just copied and pasted that. We won in FL by keeping our governor - I consider that a major victory
 
In Arkansas, Mike Ross had an A rating as a Congressman. He left congress to run for governor, and was saying we need "common sense" gun control.

His loss to Asa Hutchinson proves Mike didn't HAVE common sense -- if he did, he'd have left the gun control issue alone.
 
Any improvement in MD? My farm is in Preston County, WV so I'm right by that state line where the constitution no longer exists and have to be careful to not cross over it, would be nice to not have to be so careful.
 
I think that article (and related commentary) is seriously jumping the gun.
1) Just because Republicans won widely does not necessarily speak for a boon as far as gun advocacy. Rather, we can merely be assured it won't be "as bad" for the next few years
2) We lost every race that was directly about gun control as best I can tell. The most publicly visible governor and initiative ballots were against us.
3) Bloomberg, Gates, et. al. were not chastened by the results. The governor who went the most out on a limb to Bloomberg's influence (Hickenlooper) was not tossed out on his ear, and the initiative in Washington was a resounding victory for the efforts of big money in politics*
4) The Washington initiative victory (and to a lesser extent the minimum wage initiative victories) has given the anti's the final solution to dealing with intransigent legislatures in states dominated by city populations (which is basically all of them that have initiative processes)

To expound on these:
1) The Republicans have frequently sided with gun grabbers, or at least, broke bread with them, when the political winds blew thusly. Gun owners may not be a minority, but those who care enough to know how to protect their rights certainly are, and therefore relying on a popular political organization for protection (or even representation) is a surefire way to be betrayed. Ultimately, the Republicans know they don't need to actually do anything for us, since they have our votes regardless, so long as they do not actively pursue our enslavement. That we tend to be aligned with them on other issues only makes this factor all the more frustrating. I do not anticipate our newfound majority in the Senate or the huge one in the House to start spamming the White House with pro-gun initiatives, nor do I expect them to try repealing anything for the same reason (gun or otherwise ;))

2) Related to No. 1, simply because a Republican won, does not mean the race was about gun control. Not even if both candidates had relevant histories on the topic. The main event in nearly all the races was economy/healthcare, with gun control being a "last year" topic that was at best paid lip service. The proof will be in whether the State Houses that have been so busy the last couple years propagating gun control laws, will now being moving or accelerating in the opposite direction. It remains to be seen if there is still more appetite for gun freedom in states that have been loosening restrictions (Texas seems hopeful for OC, though we aren't there yet), because we have to remember that none of the reps or populations in these place will ever be as libertarian on the issue as we are, and will find a point beyond which they will not allow more freedom (my guess is real movement to oppose Federal oversight on in-state firearms, as well as refusal to cooperate with Federal agencies regulating gun stuff)

3) Bloomberg and the other billionaires did not intend to make a single penny off of their activism. Let's state that up front. Therefore, it really does not matter what "bang for the buck" they got, so long as their quarry capitulated. Which they did, in practically every race they made a point of winning. Their losses of resources dwarf ours, but it's like losing Stalingrad; the victory itself really does matter a great deal to the greater fight (both strategically and motivationally). Bloomberg's backers, when he bothers to rely on them, are ultimately only interested if he can deliver. If his stooges in Colorado had been both recalled and lost elections years after ramming through their bill under his promise of protection, no politician would dare stick his neck out for Mike's hollow assurances. That did not happen, therefore the billionaires are greatly emboldened. Meanwhile, our side has shown our entire hand, in terms of what resources we are capable of raising, and how effective we can be against them. It would seem Bloomberg learned a lesson or two from the recalls in Colorado, and has made his policies divorced from easily vilified personalities (and downplayed his own connection)

4) Go back and look at threads/commentary shortly after the Manchin-Toomey bill failed, and you'll see a recurring question; "where are they gonna come from next?" We discovered shortly thereafter, that the failure at the national level spurred the anti-gun groups to lobby for restrictions at the state level, where they met with mixed results. Obviously, the varying makeup of legislatures made it difficult for the anti's to get access in certain areas. Also, legislators everywhere were well aware of both the victories and losses of the UBC's across the nation, and understood the prospect posed significant risks. I suspect Bloomberg and the others found most State houses too deliberative (get it?) for the high-strung, emotional histrionics his proposals required for passage. Enter the initiative process; our most fearful enemy. Far, far too many states left this backdoor hacker solution to governance open in their Constitution, under the assumption that a legislature could be bribed into making poor law more readily than a populace. This assumption was made before massive income taxes, block grants for social services, and nationally organized political parties became the norm. Through initiatives, the Bloombergs have found the perfect vehicle for their emotional, reactionary, arbitrary, and capricious ambitions to become reality. They must simply scare a population bad enough (either by propaganda, waiting for a crisis, or both), and present their case wrapped in self-righteous indignation. It will be passed without any deliberation, and without any legal scrutiny by practically the entire electorate, before its flaws and contradictions can be fully exposed. A lie spreads across the world before the truth gets its shoes on, and that is exactly why the initiative process is almost guaranteed to yield poor outcomes for a given measure. Unless our side finds a way to kneecap Bloomberg on the initiative front, we could shortly see slickly-marketed "common sense-sounding solutions" to constitutionally-protected activities in every state with a functional initiative process, with no recourse but years of expensive court battles, both uncertain in result and fraught with terrible potential consequences. Perhaps there is a way to remind people that they elect representatives precisely so ordinary citizens do not have to decide the issue clumsily at the ballot box (without debate)?

So what's the solution?
-Nuke the initiative process in states where that is possible. No good can come of it in this area of governance or any other. So long as the initiative process is not active, we can engage the proper channels of power as a super-minority and seek proper protections as needed. As long as 'the people' can trump the official legislature at the drop of a hat, our détente is badly incomplete and we will eventually suffer for it (see: Washington State)
-Continue to enmesh the philosophy and legal arguments underpinning gun rights with issues popular among our opposition as well as our (current) allies. No executive or legislature will help us when we get unpopular enough, but if our protections are woven into the fabric keeping their ox warm and happy, they will not be gored. Personal property, privacy, and contraband laws are and will be the best avenues, here. If banning Assault Weapons means banning pot once it's legal, there will be few takers (only tokers)
-And I guess continuing to spread the word and educate people about the current state of affairs can't hurt. I never see us as being a majority; I really don't think enough people are bored enough to ponder all the intricacies of good governance, and thus hire representatives to run the machine for them. But if we can get a sizable portion of the 'poltical class' on our side, or to at least understand us, we'll have an outsized voice to lobby or govern with. As complex and personal as the path to "gunnie enlightenment" is though, this evangelism would be perfect to route through highschools or universities. Sadly, we have allowed ourselves to be shut out from these places (for exactly the same reasons) in the past decades, so this must be a territory we should focus on reclaiming a place on. Safety courses/lectures, as well as gun law primers, could be a possibility, though I have no idea how one would go about setting them up (school board, deans/directors, respectively? Possibly local government intervention?)

TCB

*Human behavior is economic behavior, so of course money and politics go hand in hand. I refer instead to the rather recent phenomenon of wealthy individuals brazenly seeking to influence specific non-local elections with both public threats and use of massive monetary input many times that of their rivals.
 
I agree that it wasn't really a significant factor in many races. Also, in crucial WA and CO votes - didn't happen.

Look at CO - the Senate race was a big win for the GOP but did it carry over to the antigun Governor's race. No.

Something else was the major variance in the race. If a state has a very large antigun city (as NY), then you don't those cities seeming to change their view.
 
In elections you win some and lose some, and when you're a winner it's usually because you were part of a larger coalition.

Anyway, if anyone is feeling downhearted consider that president Obama will now be unable to pack the Supreme Court with far-to-the-left new Justices as present ones retire or die, and have his choices rubber-stamped by a Democrat-controled Senate.

And this may turn out to be a big win for the Second Amendment.
 
Gun owners in

NY Lost Gov Cuomo Got reelected
CT Lost Governor Got reelected
CO Lost Gov Hickenlooper got reelected
PA Lost Gov Wolf got elected
WA Lost big time with I-594 passing ... with only 31% voting? Is that correct?
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Gun owners in

NY Lost Gov Cuomo Got reelected
CT Lost Governor Got reelected
CO Lost Gov Hickenlooper got reelected
PA Lost Gov Wolf got elected
WA Lost big time with I-594 passing ... with only 31% voting? Is that correct?
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Add CA to tha list.
Brown, Harris, & Newsom were reelected.
Gore ran unopposed so he wasn't even on the ballot.
 
I seriously doubt that 2A was a deciding factor in most of the Republican wins, or losses for that matter. Obama was the deciding factor in most of the races. Healthcare, taxes, faith in government are the things that MOST people vote for. I bet if you break this down you will see that the defeated guys were mostly Obama-ites and were booted for that reason. Gun control/2A just tagged along.
For that I am most thankful but the national media is still far Left of center and will continue to report the "news" as they see fit. CA, NY, and many other highly populated, and therefore highly Democratic, states are still just as far Left.
 
Old Fluff makes perhaps the most significant point. obmama will no longer be able to pack the courts with Far left appointees. The nuclear option passed by harry reid to pave the way for just such nominees will no longer help obama. A VERY worrisome prospect now is what the lame ducks in the senate will do!
 
Old Fluff makes perhaps the most significant point. obmama will no longer be able to pack the courts with Far left appointees. The nuclear option passed by harry reid to pave the way for just such nominees will no longer help obama. A VERY worrisome prospect now is what the lame ducks in the senate will do!
Don't bet on that. Preventing these far left appointees from being confirmed is entirely dependent on the republicans in the senate having the backbone to oppose them to the last, and it is by no means a foregone conclusion that they will. The Democrats have a far better record of opposing to the bitter end the nominees they don't like for ideological reasons. They kept Robert Bork off the supreme court, remember, and vilified Clarence Thomas to try and keep him off. Some qualified, originalist nominees have declined to go up for confirmation because they simply don't want to endure that ordeal. Meanwhile, republicans have tended to confirm nominees who weren't obviously unqualifed on legal grounds, like Harriet Miers was. And some liberal justices (e.g. Earl Warren, Anthony Kennedy) were even nominated by republican presidents.
 
Not in WA.

We lost.
Then you need to work harder.

Just a few years ago, Arkansas was a Yellow Dog Democrat state. To win election, you merely needed to win the Democrat Primary. In the general election, anyone with a (D) beside his name won.

Now we have a 2/3s majority in the State Senate, a 60% majority in the State House and ALL of the seven Constitutional officers (Governor, Attorney General, etc) are Republicans.

Of our Congressional Delegation, both Senators and all four Representatives are Republican.

My home county (Stone County) had NEVER elected a Republican since the end of Reconstruction in 1877. We finally elected a Republican Justice of the Peace in 2006.

And this year EVERY Republican on the ballot in my county won. The LOWEST polling Republican got more than 60% of the vote!

It took WORK. We had to find good candidates, raise money for them and WORK for them.
 
Don't bet on that. Preventing these far left appointees from being confirmed is entirely dependent on the republicans in the senate having the backbone to oppose them to the last, and it is by no means a foregone conclusion that they will.

Maybe yes, maybe no... But our chances with a Republican-controlled Senate are far, far better then one being run by "the other party."

And after January I suspect the new Senate will not be inclined to rubber stamp anything just because it's what the guy in the White House wants.
 
Here in Arkansas we were treated to a rare insider's view of how the Democrat Party works. You may remember Nancy Pelosi's statement that we had to past the healthcare bill to find out what was in it?

We had a Democrat candidate for State Senate, a former State Representative, explain to us that "nobody reads bills. The Governor tells us how to vote."

Fortunately, he lost and that governor is also gone.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/u...publicans-showing-effect-of-turnout.html?_r=3

After two Colorado lawmakers who supported strict new gun-control laws were voted out of office in a special recall election last year, the National Rifle Association and its allies celebrated their huge win in the battle over gun laws in state capitols. But that particular victory did not last.

Even as Coloradans elected a Republican senator for the first time in a dozen years and handed Republicans control of one chamber of the state legislature, voters did an abrupt about-face when it came to the recalls. The two pro-gun Republicans elected during the recalls were handily beaten this month by Democratic candidates — one of whom once worked for the gun-control group founded by former Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York City.

Let's not get too complacent and spend too much time patting ourselves on the back. We would have deserved some time making the happy dance if this hadn't happened and the governors of CO and CT had changed and I 594 hadn't passed in WA (We were never going to win in NY).
 
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