^*&^*&$ sell MY private info?!

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One of the online firearms and/or accessories suppliers I use has sold my information. I received one of those packets in the mail that to me are a scam. I am not amused. I was a trusting idiot didn't put enough clues in my address to spot who it was.

This is a targeted mailing to gun owners specifically. It was addressed to me and I just moved a few months ago. I don't deal with anyother online suppliers who would know I own firearms.

These are the ones who bought the info if they're willing to go to these scummy lengths then I will never trust them.
"North American Hunting Club"
http://www.huntingclub.com/Main/default.aspx
Run by these "fine" folk.
http://www.northamericanmediagroup.com/

The packet offers "FREE STUFF" OHMY! If you get one read the fine print it's special.

I suggest you go to every site you deal with and change your address by adding a key. In the business field add the name of the company or muddle it a bit. Such as for Midway in the business field use "Midord" for 'midway order". Most of these -insert something pax would smack me for here- don't clean up the data they just spew it out in mass mailings and they do include the business field. You can also assign a suite to the address as well. I've done both in the past.

Then when you're sent mail by Scumbag Inc it will boldly proclaim who gave them the information.

You'd think vendors would have a clue after what the NRA did.

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Yeah, I get those. I usually use the license holder and address labels and toss the rest in the trash. Sometimes it takes me upwards of 20 seconds to deal with. Maybe 25 seconds if I have to walk across the room to the shredder.
 
That's Interesting

I got a packet just like that, from those same fine folks, not all that long after signing up for an NRA membership.

Hmmm.

Wouldn't have thought they'd do something like that.

Didn't occur to me that the NRA might have sold my info.

Of course, there's always the possibility that this information could have been sold by either of two or three well-known chain stores from whom I have bought one or more guns. Of course, that would mean they took it from the face of the 4473, and that would bother me.

I wonder how one would track that down.
 
I, too, received similar shortly after joining the NRA. I've since let my membership expire.
 
i got that too... offering free hunting gear or something similar..I've been changing everything in the internet. And if the NRA don't do something about his they may lose some members
 
Opened my packet from North American Hunting Club ten minutes ago. More junk mail for the shredder.

But I love those address labels:D
 
I just got my North American Hunting Club package too, and I haven't had anything to do with the NRA in years. So to be fair, don't be so quick to blame them.

BTW, if you order from any catalog your info is out there. The only way to avoid it is to use money orders and a P.O. Box.
 
I buy from a lot of online suppliers, and get a lot of junk mail from other firearm related suppliers. One of the obvious ones is I get NRA mail.

Unfortunately I have no clue who sold my information to whom. I just junk it, it doesn't take more than a few seconds... Why bother getting worked up over it.
 
I'm pretty certain Cheaperthandirt.com sold my info to North American Hunting Club.
 
Cabelas, Sportsmans Guide, Cheaper than Dirt, Midway and many of the other companies. Most of them infact will do this. So does the NRA and a bunch of magazines like Fields and Streams. They make money from selling the lists so they can send out catalogues, free gizmos and so on.

I dump most of it along with all the other trash. The license carrier is handy for my social security card to keep it from becoming ratty and thats about the best of it.

They have sister organisations for fishing and gardening too from the same company.

The scam of the free stuff really bugs me. From all that I read they send you little trinkets if you are lucky and work as a racket scam. They have even been known to send you expensive books with a bill that you haven't ordered and then pay the postage to send back, but I think a number of states have protection against that now.
 
In case you guys didn't know your Credit Cards and some banks sell info based on account activity and their are triggers based on purchasing patterns. For instance if you shop at Bass pro or alot of stores that have Hunting in the title don't be wowed when a cabelas catalog shows up.
 
Natchez has shared my personal information with others. I'm not an NRA and I've still gotten a ton of junk like that in recent years. I wonder if some of it may be harvested from the PA or NH permit system.
 
North American Hunting Club actually called me, and claimed I was a member, and wanted me to renew and buy stuff.

I informed them that I was not a memebr and had never been a member (which seemed like news to the person on the other end of the line), and besides why would I join a hunting club if I'd never been hunting in my life? (was true at the time)
 
Mine got so bad I was spending at least an hour a week shredding junk mail and "return to sender".

Now, I no longer buy online, I pay with PayPal or a check only - doing much more business with my local shops. My local shops greet me by name, they know who their customers are.

Be safe, BSR
 
Why are people getting so annoyed about receiving junk mail? :confused: It only takes a few seconds to toss it. Are you worried about identity theft? You do know that your name/address can be found in lots of different places (e.g. phonebook, property tax records), right? You do know that it takes more than just a name and address to steal an identity, right? Maybe y'all are environmentalists and worried about the trees?

It wouldn't/doesn't bother me that the NRA sells me info. It is just another way for the NRA to raise funds to support gun rights. I'm happy to help out by spending 10 seconds to throw it in the recycle bin.
 
I was once on Cabelas mailing list under 3 misspelled versions of my name. Their fault, not mine, you'd think they could just look at the name on my Visa card after years and years of purchases, but no.

All of the hunting/gun/etc junk mail I got for years came off of one of the names. And it was such a laugh to get phone calls and have them try to pronounce Mr. JohnBTxyzohnesberlshrd.

What was funnier almost was that Cabelas couldn't take that name off their mailing list because the number associated with it on the mailing label didn't have enough digits for the computer to recognize.

John
NRA Patron Member
 
Well, I hate to squash the NRA suspicion party, but I became a member of the NAHC before I joined the NRA.

I'm trying to figure out the NAHC hate going around though.. confusing. Yeah, they spam the junk mail pretty hard but you can just file 13 it with all the credit card offers. It's not actually a bad group to belong too.. but to each their own I guess.
 
I've been an NRA member for years, changed my status to Life Member, purchase things from their stores, and never even heard of that other group much less received junk mail from them.

But junk mail and other unsolicited mailings are so unusual and such a horrible violation of any person's privacy that it's certainly a good reason to resign from the National Rifle Association. It's as good as any other.

Any excuse for not carrying your share of the load is a good one. I didn't like the expression on Wayne LaPierre's face in a photo I saw of him the other day, and it so upset me that I decided not to renew my membership. Then I realized that I was a Life Member and that got me really angry. How dare the NRA not even let me not renew my membership. Now I'm even more determined not to renew it.

I'm always impressed by the way gun owners fight for their principles but I do have a hard time trying to understand some of those principles and I don't think I'll ever be able to follow the logic behind them.

We will never be able to retain private ownership of firearms in this country. Too many gun owners too easily outraged by too much silliness to focus on what's real and important.
 
Post your full name, address and telephone number here and go to google groups and post it in all the MLM groups.

I did not give them permission to give my information to anyone else. I don't deal with any business that sells information I provide to them. If I wanted that information public I'd subscribe to the Direct Marketing Associations 'feature' of opting in to targeted ads. I'd subscribe to the new free phone service that will listen to your conversations and flash up ads on the PC, etc. etc. etc.

I did not mean to imply the NRA was the culprit. The NRA sold off lapsed members information a while back. Someone got a sweet list of gun owners to target. I wouldn't know if they still do that.
 
BIG deal

Ooo, my, I got some junk mail!!! Imagine that!! :what: Why, the nerve of them and whomever!!! I'm going to quit every hobby I have and stop doing business with just about everyone I do business with 'cause dang it, they're all suspect!!! Yup, I'll teach them a thing or two by golly!!! They'll learn they can treat me like that! :mad:

I'M QUITING EVERYTHING!!! YEAH BABY!!! :fire:



Or I could just reach over and toss it out. :p
 
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