Servisios and Adventuras Primer Observations.

I bought1K SPP Servicios Aventuras primers. I find that maybe 40 out of 50 reliably ignite. I oulled a box of 50 rounds. Still have another 50 to pull down. I threw 850 of those primers in the trash. Bad garbage.

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2ndtimer said:
I am still experimenting, really cleaning and uniforming primer pockets and extra effort seating primers seems to improve performance.
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Although I don't have a dog in this hunt, I really wonder if there isn't some sort of magical combination of pocket depth, pocket cleanliness, and seating force to these primers. I had something similar with seating primers in my .41MAG brass... related to the carbon buildup in the pocket, ultimately, not the primers. Using a primer pocket cutter got the moon rock out of the pocket, and now my primers seat fine. There has to be a rhyme or reason why some have nearly 100% success, and others have 10-20% (or more) failure...
 
Charlie98 said:
Although I don't have a dog in this hunt, I really wonder if there isn't some sort of magical combination of pocket depth, pocket cleanliness, and seating force to these primers. I had something similar with seating primers in my .41MAG brass... related to the carbon buildup in the pocket, ultimately, not the primers. Using a primer pocket cutter got the moon rock out of the pocket, and now my primers seat fine. There has to be a rhyme or reason why some have nearly 100% success, and others have 10-20% (or more) failure...
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Oooh primer pockets:)
 
JDeere said:
As with everything gun related it seems we have differing opinions...
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Barmcd said:
I pretty sure two people could sit side by side at a loading bench with two identical press setups and load cartridges with the same components and load data, and shoot them out of two identical guns, and not get the same results.
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Different opinions.... yes. Different outcomes.... yes. Different facts? No.
 
Tall said:
This one:

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Hmmm, 100 year old Colt revolver with 100 year old leaf spring mainspring and probably VERY light double and single action trigger pull, and you got 80% reliable ignition with the S/A primers. So you throw out the “garbage primers”? Many hang on to their highly tuned PPC revolvers that will ONLY fire reliably with thin cupped sensitive Federal primers. Maybe, just maybe, it is your revolver?
 
2ndtimer said:
Hmmm, 100 year old Colt revolver with 100 year old leaf spring mainspring and probably VERY light double and single action trigger pull, and you got 80% reliable ignition with the S/A primers. So you throw out the “garbage primers”? Many hang on to their highly tuned PPC revolvers that will ONLY fire reliably with thin cupped sensitive Federal primers. Maybe, just maybe, it is your revolver?
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None of what you say is true.
 
JohnB-40 said:
I've gone through a brick so far. 100% went bang. That's a whole lot better than the last batch of Winchester's SPP.
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I have had New CCI and Winchester FTF, so I thinking quality control may have gone downhill some. I like Winchester used over 80,000 of them and never had a CCI FTF even when they were in the little boxes over 30 years ago.
 
Tall said:
None of what you say is true.
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Okay, Tall. Why don't you lay some truth on me? When was your Colt manufactured? If it was prior to 1970, it is over 50 years old (okay, so not 100, but definitely well aged). And light trigger pulls can lead to light primer strikes, especially with harder primers i.e. using small rifle primers in place of small pistol primers. I experienced that with a brand new Ruger Redhawk a few decades ago that came with a very light smooth double action trigger that frequently would light strike CCI-300 primers and fail to fire.
But, hey, you be you and by all means avoid affordable primers. That helps keep the price down for the rest of us.
 
2ndtimer said:
Okay, Tall. Why don't you lay some truth on me? When was your Colt manufactured? If it was prior to 1970, it is over 50 years old (okay, so not 100, but definitely well aged). And light trigger pulls can lead to light primer strikes, especially with harder primers i.e. using small rifle primers in place of small pistol primers. I experienced that with a brand new Ruger Redhawk a few decades ago that came with a very light smooth double action trigger that frequently would light strike CCI-300 primers and fail to fire.
But, hey, you be you and by all means avoid affordable primers. That helps keep the price down for the rest of us.
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Look troll. Quit assuming you know something when you don't.
 
JohnB-40 said:
I've gone through a brick so far. 100% went bang. That's a whole lot better than the last batch of Winchester's SPP.
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I'm done with Winchester unless that's all that's left on the shelf and I'm out of primers.
 
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