Shield or Ruger American?

Shield or Ruger American


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Just browsing online gun stores and seen that the M&P Shield and the new Ruger American pistol both in 45 ACP are for sale for around the same price ($350). I currently have multiple 22lr, 380, 9mm, and 40s&w pistol, but no 45s. Plan on buying one just to have at least one.

I know that there's a size, weight, and round difference between the two, but that isn't really a concern of mine. The gun service no particular role for me. I already have carry guns and home guns. This is just to buy a 45 pistol for the sake of having one..

With that said and if you were to choose between the two under the circumstances mentioned, which would you choose?
 
I voted shield because I have one and am pleased with it. Ruger American is too large and heavy for my purposes. Might be different for you.
 
The Ruger is probably a good buy for the price if you're looking for a duty sized 45.

I'm real interested in a PC Shield 9mm though.
 
Yea Im leaning towards the Shield, but the Ruger seems like a better deal at that price. They usually go for over $400, and have more features.
 
Neither.

If you want 45 acp, get a 1911. I get striker fired polymer. Picked up an M&P 40 2.0 this afternoon. But your first 45 acp should be a 1911. Steel. Single action. Classic.
 
Since its not filling any specific role I chose the Ruger American compact. One 7 round mag and one 10 round mag that makes it either a compact size handgun or a full size with the extension for the range. However I've heard from multiple sources that the m&p45 shield handles more like a full size gun than a sub compact. If carrying concealed is even the slightest possibility in the future then I chose the shield 45. It's way thinner and sticks in the hand like Velcro. Other than that I don't really know what to tell you, ones a thin single stack and the other is a double stack tank and both shoot great from what I've seen and heard
 
I'm with RPRNY. I voted Shield because I have one and like it, but if you're just going to have one .45 I'd make it a 1911.
 
Shield 45
Reason: Smith has produced over a million Shields now and it's quite possibly their top selling product. That tells me that they have a lot of customer feedback and it carries a lot of weight when they decide how to allocate their engineering resources. The 45 Shield is a reflection of everything they've learned so far. It's refined. It shows Smiths dedication to the Shield platform.

The Ruger American is still new and sits there next to the SR series in their lineup. Maybe it's the future for Ruger, but it has some big shoes to fill to replace the sleeker SR series. The one American I looked at at a LGS had a very crisp/light trigger; might make it the easiest of the two for target range work. The shape of the frame at the back looks odd to me. The grip doesn't flow into the upper slide portion of the gun. Although I chose the Shield, I am not not bashing the American. Having something different than the other folks at the range may be reason enough to choose it.
 
I would go along with what oss117 posted: the Shield has been out for some time now and has a decent track record. The American is just coming out on the market and as such I would wait a while to see what if any problems it might have initially. If it proves to be a solid and dependable gun then I would say go with the one that has the features that you want and feels the best in your hand.
 
I have more than several thousand rounds fired thru a RAP45 full-size not the compact. It is an excellent pistol. That said also experienced with 1911 series pistols (Ithaca issued to me by the Marine Corps Viet-Nam) Colt-Springfield-S&W, S&W4506 Gen3, Glock 21Gen3 and Sig 220. Most individual's that offer advice concerning the RAP45 have not handled one extensively or put several thousand rounds down range thus extremely limited experience period. Go to a range facility that rents pistols and fire a RAP45c. Comparing a RAP45c and a S&W Shield 45ACP is a apples to oranges experience. I also have extensive exsperience with the S&W MP series 1.0 in 9mm Luger and 45ACP. As for the Shield I can only speak to the 9mm Luger and have absolutely no experience with the Shield in 45ACP
 
Just browsing online gun stores and seen that the M&P Shield and the new Ruger American pistol both in 45 ACP are for sale for around the same price ($350). I currently have multiple 22lr, 380, 9mm, and 40s&w pistol, but no 45s. Plan on buying one just to have at least one.

I know that there's a size, weight, and round difference between the two, but that isn't really a concern of mine. The gun service no particular role for me. I already have carry guns and home guns. This is just to buy a 45 pistol for the sake of having one..

With that said and if you were to choose between the two under the circumstances mentioned, which would you choose?
The M&P series in general are excellent firearms pretty much across the board. I own several in Pistol and Carbine/rifle form and have always been impressed with all of them. Though I don't own a Shield 45 (it serves no particular purpose for me and my systems) I do own two Shield9s among my other M&Ps; one a standard "Pro" Model (no external safety) and one a Performance Center ported model. I love them both and shoot them as well as I do full size "Duty/service" pistols. I first got into the Shields only about a year and half ago when I was on the mission to update my backup EDC which at the time was a Keltec P11. I'm usually a Glock enthusiast through and through when it comes to service/carry guns, so naturally when the G43 finally came out I ran and bought one to back up my G19/32 primary EDC. Unfortunately my love and success wiTh all things Glock ended with the 43; I just didn't shoot it very well even after months of training. It just never was a good fit for me personally, my hands, and my shooting style. When I got my hands on the Shield though, it felt great and I knew I wanted to get one on the range. After shooting a friends I immediately went out and bought my first non performance center version. I've since put about 3500 rounds through mine without a single hiccup. I mostly shoot my own 124/147 grain hand loads which are moderate power loads, but atleast 750-800 of those rounds are full house +P factory or max book handloads with JHPs and it has done great with them all. Even my 115gr powder puff loads for training my Lady and fun rapid fire plinking (115 Xtreme plated/4.2HP38) cycle the gun fine and are quite accurate. All in all the Shield just proved to be a great pistol, so about 5-6 months ago I picked up a used Performance Center ported model Shield 9 as well just to add to the proverbial Arsenal. The porting is only really noticeable with max power +P type loads, in which case it does reduce muzzle rise slightly and noticeably. With standard target fodder and even some moderate 124 XTP hand loads though it's hard to even really tell much difference shooting them back to back. One thing that I always immediately tell the difference of though is the sights and trigger on the Performance Center model which are, in a word, great. The sights are fiber optic and quick to pickup and the trigger is a good bit smoother/lighter than the standard model. Although I must admit after the first ~500 rounds or so the standard trigger pull is very nice and crisp as well IMO so I never felt the need to change it, especially serving carry duties. All in all though I highly regard the Shield line and I'm hearing the 45 is just as reliable as the 9mm and 40. The only down review I've heard about them is the 40 is hard to shoot well for most people. It's just snappy and average shooters don't hit well with them. Other than that they are all good pistols,'so the 45 will serve you very well I'm sure. I have to ask though, if your just gonna have one .45, especially not for carry why not a 1911 of some sort? I'm not a 45 carrier and have not been for some years now, so my sole purpose for the .45 cartridge is now target and the occasional outing to my weekly action Pistol classes. Because of that when I pick a 45 it doesn't have to be practical really, so I can get some "pretty" 1911s. These days they are like ARs, everyone makes them in every imaginable configurations and price range. Just curious why a 1911 variant would not be on your radar. You can get a decent range quality one for around the same price as a Shield from like RIA and similar importers.
 
The M&P series in general are excellent firearms pretty much across the board. I own several in Pistol and Carbine/rifle form and have always been impressed with all of them. Though I don't own a Shield 45 (it serves no particular purpose for me and my systems) I do own two Shield9s among my other M&Ps; one a standard "Pro" Model (no external safety) and one a Performance Center ported model. I love them both and shoot them as well as I do full size "Duty/service" pistols. I first got into the Shields only about a year and half ago when I was on the mission to update my backup EDC which at the time was a Keltec P11. I'm usually a Glock enthusiast through and through when it comes to service/carry guns, so naturally when the G43 finally came out I ran and bought one to back up my G19/32 primary EDC. Unfortunately my love and success wiTh all things Glock ended with the 43; I just didn't shoot it very well even after months of training. It just never was a good fit for me personally, my hands, and my shooting style. When I got my hands on the Shield though, it felt great and I knew I wanted to get one on the range. After shooting a friends I immediately went out and bought my first non performance center version. I've since put about 3500 rounds through mine without a single hiccup. I mostly shoot my own 124/147 grain hand loads which are moderate power loads, but atleast 750-800 of those rounds are full house +P factory or max book handloads with JHPs and it has done great with them all. Even my 115gr powder puff loads for training my Lady and fun rapid fire plinking (115 Xtreme plated/4.2HP38) cycle the gun fine and are quite accurate. All in all the Shield just proved to be a great pistol, so about 5-6 months ago I picked up a used Performance Center ported model Shield 9 as well just to add to the proverbial Arsenal. The porting is only really noticeable with max power +P type loads, in which case it does reduce muzzle rise slightly and noticeably. With standard target fodder and even some moderate 124 XTP hand loads though it's hard to even really tell much difference shooting them back to back. One thing that I always immediately tell the difference of though is the sights and trigger on the Performance Center model which are, in a word, great. The sights are fiber optic and quick to pickup and the trigger is a good bit smoother/lighter than the standard model. Although I must admit after the first ~500 rounds or so the standard trigger pull is very nice and crisp as well IMO so I never felt the need to change it, especially serving carry duties. All in all though I highly regard the Shield line and I'm hearing the 45 is just as reliable as the 9mm and 40. The only down review I've heard about them is the 40 is hard to shoot well for most people. It's just snappy and average shooters don't hit well with them. Other than that they are all good pistols,'so the 45 will serve you very well I'm sure. I have to ask though, if your just gonna have one .45, especially not for carry why not a 1911 of some sort? I'm not a 45 carrier and have not been for some years now, so my sole purpose for the .45 cartridge is now target and the occasional outing to my weekly action Pistol classes. Because of that when I pick a 45 it doesn't have to be practical really, so I can get some "pretty" 1911s. These days they are like ARs, everyone makes them in every imaginable configurations and price range. Just curious why a 1911 variant would not be on your radar. You can get a decent range quality one for around the same price as a Shield from like RIA and similar importers.
Not looking at a 1911 because there aren't any of the same quality, fit and finish, and price for $350 otherwise a 1911 would be a no brainer.
 
My best friend bought a new Ruger American in 9mm and got rid of it because it had a 7 lb + trigger pull. I don't know anything about the Shield but I'd certainly try the trigger on each pistol before I'd purchase either one.
 
I have had a Shield in 9 mm for a couple years now and completely trust it to do the job when needed. I have no experience with the Ruger model in question but I tried out a LCP in 9mm and it functioned as it should but the pistol just didn't fit my hand well, so I shot it poorly. Naturally my choice would be the Shield. It is totally irrelevant what others think about what you should buy because their choice is based on what works for them. Now if there were a lot of problems reported on one or the other of the pistols then their recommendations will hold merit for you. Try both out at the range then make your decision.
 
I got the 9mm Ruger American Pistol last year for my wife. I have been working so much I haven't gotten to shoot it much. I do like it though. They are available with or without a thumb safety & the trigger is nice. I don't know what the pull weight is but it is crisp & clean. If the purpose of this is to have a .45 & you already have your carry bases covered I would go full sized. I agree with tactikel it will make it more pleasant to shoot.
 
Availability of spare magazines, holster, night sights.
Which has the least chance of being discontinued 10 years from now.
I'd go with Shield, you may decide to carry a 45
 
Went through this myself recently---the Ruger compact isn't really "compact"--its just smaller than the full size. If you can get the Ruger for $350---buy it---they are $500 around here---but in .45 I would go with the full size---the compact just seemed awkward.

I wound up with a Shield 9mm----a .45 version might be my next one depending on how well I like this one---going to shoot it for the first time today. The full sized Ruger .45 is also on my radar--liked that one a lot but the price is the issue---$500 gets me another Glock---sorry Ruger.
 
Went through this myself recently---the Ruger compact isn't really "compact"--its just smaller than the full size. If you can get the Ruger for $350---buy it---they are $500 around here---but in .45 I would go with the full size---the compact just seemed awkward.

I wound up with a Shield 9mm----a .45 version might be my next one depending on how well I like this one---going to shoot it for the first time today. The full sized Ruger .45 is also on my radar--liked that one a lot but the price is the issue---$500 gets me another Glock---sorry Ruger.
Yea I still can't decide. Went to my LGS to fondle them in person thinking id be able to come to an easy decision afterwards, but that wasn't the case.

The Compact looked thick and somewhat big, but it felt good in hand and wasn't as heavy as reviews led me to believe.

I like the Shield too. I already have one in 40s&w. The 45 felt a lot better and fit my hand better....
 
Yea I still can't decide. Went to my LGS to fondle them in person thinking id be able to come to an easy decision afterwards, but that wasn't the case.

The Compact looked thick and somewhat big, but it felt good in hand and wasn't as heavy as reviews led me to believe.

I like the Shield too. I already have one in 40s&w. The 45 felt a lot better and fit my hand better....
Yeah Ruger has always made overbuilt tank pistols, then they trimmed things down with the sr series and are not back at it with the American. I like both but my choice would be made off the likelihood I would ever carry the gun. If so, shield all day and twice on Sunday
 
I pick the shield they have been out for a bit and mine has been 100% reliable
 
Thanks for the opinions. I ended up going with the Shield.
 
Thanks for the opinions. I ended up going with the Shield.
Good choice. I have two Shields, a 9mm and a 45ACP. Both shoot great and feel like much larger guns when you shoot them.

I just read Mas Ayoob's review of the 45ACP Shield in this month's Guns Magazine, where he said he's never seen a Shield malfunction in a class that wasn't attributed to shooter error.
 
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