Shogun/Revolver for Home Defense over Rifle/Pistol?

[KarateHottie93]

It seems like the common thing these days is a bedside pistol, and then a rifle from the safe, if/when you can work your way to it. I’m starting to question whether I’m making the right decision here or not.

15+2 rounds (one in chamber and one floating on the shell carrier) of 12GA and 8 shots of 357 Magnum just don’t seem like much anymore when you can put a drum on your Glock.

My front and rear sights might not match at the moment but at least I got matching buckshot so my gun won’t stick out to tangos if I ever decide to run a side saddle.

 

[21H40]

I think it all depends on your tactics. Having extra ammo after the gunfight is usually a good thing, but it looks like you've got things pretty well covered.

Unless suppressive fire could be in order (half way serious, it is one method to convince people to stay put behind cover, and that may be a viable option for some homes) then I imagine you've got enough to keep several targets engaged.

If you think suppressive fire might work for your home, you want to switch to something more like an AR or AK with something like a plate carrier with MOLLE to provide quick access to loaded magazines.

 

[Jonah77]

It is a tough call….can you ever have “enough”?

My biggest issue is manpower. Just not enough hands on deck. So my wife and I are trying to conceive another set of twins so we can install two more M1919A4 Brownings. We have two already and good converging fire across our front yard but the rear is too open on the left flank…

Until then we just have to trust that the Claymores will do their job.

Hard to sleep at night sometimes.

 

[21H40]

It is a tough call….can you ever have “enough”?

My biggest issue is manpower. Just not enough hands on deck. So my wife and I are trying to conceive another set of twins so we can install two more M1919A4 Brownings. We have two already and good converging fire across our front yard but the rear is too open on the left flank…

Until then we just have to trust that the Claymores will do their job.

Hard to sleep at night sometimes.

I hope those claymores are marked so you will know if they get turned around - it can be a bad surprise to set them off when they're facing you!

Good luck with the twins. I might suggest starting them off with something that is less likely to get little fingers pinched. Belt fed can be hard on fingers.

I also recommend using some barbed wire tanglefoot on that open flank - combined with trip-flares you should have plenty of time to adjust positions and engage!

 

[Jonah77]

I hope those claymores are marked so you will know if they get turned around - it can be a bad surprise to set them off when they're facing you!

Good luck with the twins. I might suggest starting them off with something that is less likely to get little fingers pinched. Belt fed can be hard on fingers.

I also recommend using some barbed wire tanglefoot on that open flank - combined with trip-flares you should have plenty of time to adjust positions and engage!

So….that’s what happened to the neighbors dog!

It was BACKWARDS!

 

[Leon tP]

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My front and rear sights might not match at the moment but at least I got matching buckshot so my gun won’t stick out to tangos if I ever decide to run a side saddle.

Well, that's the important thing. The last thing you want to do in a firefight is clash.

 

[GEM]

What are your training and competition experiences with either gun set in realistic scenarios? Otherwise this will just be another Internet equipment BS session, to be blunt. Some of the less than serious responses seem to indicate what folks think of the initial post.

 

[Jonah77]

What are your training and competition experiences with either gun set in realistic scenarios? Otherwise this will just be another Internet equipment BS session, to be blunt. Some of the less than serious responses seem to indicate what folks think of the initial post.

Thank you…

Honestly-seeing that shotgun and that revolver had me scratching my head. I wasn’t sure if the OP was an attempt at a joke or a serious question.

You brought up a great point…without some CONTEXT what the heck are we supposed to do with this?

Experience level, familiarity with the platform, threat assessments….location, location, location…? Type of dwelling. Neighborhood? Family members? Disabilities? State restrictions? BUDGET?

Edit: I just re-read the initial post. This has to be an attempt to be funny…(I hope lol).

 

[JoeHenry]

If they get past a 170 pound dog, Sig 220 45 in the night stand and Remington 870 12 gauge with extended mag is close at hand.

 

[jrmiddleton425]

...a rifle from the safe, if/when you can work your way to it...

As told to me by now deceased USCG Auxiliary mentor: "You better know how to use that pistol, BECAUSE THE PISTOL ON YOUR BELT IS ALL YOU GOT."

Never assume you will be able to "fight your way to your rifle."

Moreover, if you have time to get a rifle from the safe, the prosecutor could very well argue that you should have tried to retreat instead.

I can't find any state that REQUIRES you to retreat from your dwelling, but if I made a declarative statement that none do, someone would prove me wrong.

 

[GRIZ22]

As told to me by now deceased USCG Auxiliary mentor: "You better know how to use that pistol, BECAUSE THE PISTOL ON YOUR BELT IS ALL YOU GOT."

Never assume you will be able to "fight your way to your rifle."

Moreover, if you have time to get a rifle from the safe, the prosecutor could very well argue that you should have tried to retreat instead.

I can't find any state that REQUIRES you to retreat from your dwelling, but if I made a declarative statement that none do, someone would prove me wrong.

Okay, IIRC NJ requires you to inform the intruder to cease and desist. If you have indications the intruder won't and you are in fear of your life you can use deadly force.

FWIW, in over 50 years of living in NJ I've never heard of anyone being prosecuted for shooting an intruder.

 

[Lo-Profile]

Bedside pistol and shotgun.
Not going to be shooting more than 25-30 feet. Don't need a rifle or PCC for that range.

 

[Tallball]

If a shotgun is insufficient, you should probably have searchlights and barbed wire and so forth.

 

[bassjam]

It seems like the common thing these days is a bedside pistol, and then a rifle from the safe, if/when you can work your way to it. I’m starting to question whether I’m making the right decision here or not.

15+2 rounds (one in chamber and one floating on the shell carrier) of 12GA and 8 shots of 357 Magnum just don’t seem like much anymore when you can put a drum on your Glock.

The control/accuracy/hit potential of a long gun trumps having triple the rounds for a handgun in my book. If the shotgun is readily accessible, I wouldn't be concerned at all.

 

[FAS1]

#3 Pistol/Shotgun for me, although there is a loaded rifle in the safe too.

Pistol is the primary since it is right next to my pillow when sleeping.



Shotgun is available if I need to move toward the direction of my safe. That's also where my wife would go while calling 911 to send an ambulance for the intruder.