Shotgun in TX Shooting

[milemaker13]

Why don't we hear much about the shooters themselves? We all know the jackwagons that take advantage of the situation to hog out a name for themselves, but hear next to nothing about the actual murderers. What gives?

Now that they are being taken alive, I thought we would start getting some kind of insite into what was going thru their mind. Isn't that how the FBI started catching serial killers??

 

[Good Ol' Boy]

It wasn't a shotgun used it was an AR. I saw it on CNN the day it happened.


The fact that anyone still takes MSM for anything but a outright lie is unbelievable. Unfortunately there are many who won't bat an eye over this "early report".

 

[Mosin Bubba]

It's just ridiculous that people still think guns are the issue. We've had basically the exact same gun laws for the last 50 years (minus the AWB bump in the road) - they haven't changed. The guns themselves haven't changed - the shotgun and revolver used are virtually unchanged from a century ago.

So what else has changed to create all these mass shootings? There's a lot of things to point fingers at, and I'm not going to pretend like I have the answer. But it's clear that guns aren't one of them.

 

[JeeperCreeper]

Why don't we hear much about the shooters themselves? We all know the jackwagons that take advantage of the situation to hog out a name for themselves, but hear next to nothing about the actual murderers. What gives?

Now that they are being taken alive, I thought we would start getting some kind of insite into what was going thru their mind. Isn't that how the FBI started catching serial killers??

I think we hear too much about the shooters. Their faces are plastered all over the internet and TV by media sources trying to sell advertising revenue. If someone wants to become infamous in their sick brains, a copy cat killing spree is all it takes, as we've seen time and time again.

I bet you can name the shooters before you can name the victims. I'm the same way because the names are spewed on this 24 hour news cycle.

And going with that, I've seen less press about this shooting. My guess is it doesn't fit the narrative. A shotgun? All the articles are still mentioning AR15 as in "good thing he only used a shotgun cuz AR15 would have murdered more murderously"

 

[milemaker13]

Internet, social media, betting constantly plugged in via smart phones.

We had bullies but it went away when you left school for the day. You went home and had no idea what the other kids were doing with out you. Now, the bullying follows you home, you see all the other kids hanging out having fun with out you. I don't know why everybody thinks they need to be entertained every single minute of every single day with music, movies, videos, porn, Facebook, Twatter, bla bla bla.
We also had violent video games and they were said to be the worst possible thing. They weren't anything like what these kids are playing today... these new first person shooter war games could probably be used to train actual soldiers yet every kid is now allowed to play them 24/7 and no one seems to say a word about them.

Do you think these psychos played these games? I'd be willing to bet they did. Will they continue to play them in their comfortable cell between aroma therapy and counseling for their traumatic experience (the shooting)?... probably.

Sorry... I'm more than a little fed up with these copy cat idiots that somehow come to the conclusion that this is ok.

Has anyone with a legal ccw ever shot up a school? I don't know, but willing to bet not.

 

[CapnMac]

I’ve come to the conclusion there’s no reasoning with these “people”

One of my acquaintances is a schoolteacher and has gone full-tilt anti (depsite a number of years as an Army Officer).
She took to her f/b page to jump on a new bandwagon, that anyone who lets their weapons get stolen needs to be tried for the crimes committed with them. So, they were calling for the father to tried for murder of the schoolkids.

So, basically, in effect, if a person steals your car stereo, and a drunk buys that stolen stereo and runs over some pedestrians, it's the original owner who is to answer the manslaughter or whatever charges are made.

I thought about pointing out that would be throwing a few centuries of common law into the trash, all to create another law a lawbreaker would ignore and disregard. But, I realized it would be a waste of my time. They are convinced their ever-more wacky ideas will work.

 

[Joshua M. Smith]

Stereo?

 

[Robert]

It looks like we've drifted pretty far from the original topic. Time to call it a day.

 

[GEM]

Remember that Australia strictly controls shotgun types.

 

[hso]

One of the reports I heard said that an AR 15 style rifle was used.

Can you find that? It would be very helpful is everyone can find any news outlet referring to an AR in this case. If you do, print it or save it to PDF so it can be posted up on their site showing their prejudice.

 

[JohnKSa]

Can you find that? It would be very helpful is everyone can find any news outlet referring to an AR in this case. If you do, print it or save it to PDF so it can be posted up on their site showing their prejudice.

The Houston Chronicle seems to be the source of the reports that are quoted in other media articles.

https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/everything-know-shooting-santa-fe-high-school/

According to the Houston Chronicle, Pagourtzis used a variety of weapons in his attack—an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle, a pistol, a shotgun, and pipe bombs.​

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article211428979.html

The Chronicle reported that the gunman was a male, again citing an unnamed law enforcement official, and that the assailant was armed with an AR-15 rifle, a pistol, a shotgun and pipe bombs.​

The Houston Chronicle says that an anonymous "senior law enforcement official" told them that the attacker had an AR-15.

https://www.chron.com/neighborhood/...ida-Texas-school-shooting-tweets-12925867.php

Officials said an attacker was armed with an AR-15-style rifle, a pistol, a shotgun and pipe bomb.​

http://www.phillyvoice.com/multiple-deaths-reported-santa-fe-texas-school-shooting/

The alleged shooter had multiple guns, including an AR-15, and pipe bombs, the Houston Chronicle reported, citing a senior law enforcement official who was not authorized to speak about the investigation.​