Should I Start Casting?

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Hey everyone, I am pretty new to reloading and am still trying to develop a good load. I was wondering about casting my own bullets (45-70) but have a lot of questions. First off, about how much would I save by casting if I have to buy lead, say compared to the cost of Missouri bullets? Secondly, about how much would it initially cost to get into casting? Also, what exactly do I need to cast besides molds, lead, and lube? Lastly, are good handcast bullets just as accurate as factory?
Thanks!
 
It will depend on how much shooting you're going to do. I cast and shoot over 10,000 bullets per year between my wife and I. For us, it's a huge savings, but then I've got a lot invested in casting equipment, but have accumulated it over a long period of time.

You can spend as little, or as much, as your heart desires, depending on your needs. You could get into it with a simple casting pot and small casting ladle, plus a mold and some simple sizing and lubing equipment, for probably around $100.00+/-. Or, you could go into it whole hog and spend a couple of thousand on a Magma Master Caster, a fully equipped Star Sizer and a few molds.

It all depends on your tastes and requirements. If you know anyone locally who cast bullets, that would be a good place to start. If not, then the Lyman Cast Bullet Manual would be a good start, too.

You can also go to castboolits.com and get yourself completely confused on the subject, since your knowledge base appears to be zero. But then, we all pretty much started out like you are now, only some of us before there was an internet. Like I said, it can be as simple, or complicated, as you like.

Hope this helps.

Fred
 
Thanks for the info, I spent about $200 to get into reloading so I don't think I'll drop a couple grand on casting equipment. $100 isn't too bad though.
 
locate your lead first

Getting in to casting can be as simple and inexpensive or as fancy and pricey as you wish. You need a couple pots to melt lead (1 for smelting gross lead, one for casting), a heat source, the appropriate mould(s) and handles, a ladle, and a wood stick to open the sprue.

But most important, you need a source of lead. All the old reliable sources are drying up. Wheel weights are fast disappearing, being replace by zinc or steel and the tire shop chains most all have contracts to pick it up and recycle it for them to save the environment. Thanks Big Brother. Linotype is getting hard to find, unless you have a fat wallet. Lead can be purchased fairly cheaply, if you look around in scrap yards, recycling yards, etc as possible sources.
 
If you like to shoot and want to shoot as much as you can...as cheaply as you can...casting is the way to go.

I thought reloading added a lot to my shooting...but it added nothing in comparison to casting.

And, together...they quadruple my enjoyment.
 
Once you have your self set up casting a new cal. is only a small amount. I'm casting 4 cal.s now.An AR15 found its way to my house so now I'll have to get a new mold dang! Just like loading very addicting !!!!!
CC
 
First off, about how much would I save by casting if I have to buy lead, say compared to the cost of Missouri bullets?

Depends on how you acquire your lead.
If you buy pre mixed alloy from a company like rotometals or Missouri Bullets, you won't save that much. I'd just buy the actual bullets from Missouri Bullets rather than do that.

However, if you find a good source of wheel weights (local tire store, scrap yard etc.) you can save a ton of money. I pay $35-$40 for a 5-gallon bucket of wheel weights and I usually have 110-120 pounds of clean ingots ready to cast. That's a heck of a deal and can cast a lot of bullets.

Secondly, about how much would it initially cost to get into casting?

As the guys have already mentioned, you can spend a little or a lot.

This is the kit I purchased when I first got started and it served me very well.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/277310/lyman-big-dipper-furnace-starter-kit?cm_vc=ProductFinding

You will hear suggestions that you have one pot for smelting and one for actually casting. I agree eventually. You don't have to do that to start off though. I smelted and cast out of that 10# Lyman pot for a few years with no trouble whatsoever. I bet I smelted 50 buckets of wheel weights in that tiny pot before moving to something larger.

Now we smelt in an iron pot over a propane burner and cast from a 20# Lee bottom pour pot. But you can do it out of the same small pot at first until you see whether or not you'll even enjoy casting.

As far as molds we started out with aluminum Lee molds and that is still mostly what we use. I have a few iron molds made by RCBS and Lyman, but in all honesty I don't think they offer a single advantage over aluminum. Plus aluminum molds are much lighter, thus making long casting sessions more enjoyable.

Cheers friend, and happy loading. Hope this helps.
 
You can also go to castboolits.com and get yourself completely confused on the subject, since your knowledge base appears to be zero.

The castboolits site is great and I agree go there and read.

However the actual URL is castboolits.gunloads.com. ;)
 
Everybody should have at least one mold for their go-to defense pistol and a small stash of lead so when it hits the fan you are not left bullet less. Also a small stash of powder and primers for same. Plus save your brass!
Jmtcw, catpop
 
Everybody should have at least one mold for their go-to defense pistol and a small stash of lead so when it hits the fan you are not left bullet less.

Ha!!! Just try to have one mould and a "small" stash of lead. It's a sickness, I tell ya!

Don
 
Casting is like reloading. You can spend as much or as little as you want on equipment. It can be very satisfying and rewarding. But, I doubt you will save much money. Like reloading, you will just be able to shoot more. As to lead, you can still find wheelweights and other scrap lead. You just have to look, and free lead is getting harder to find.
 
There are easy enough ways to get it.

If you can't find it locally, look on castboolits site and you can usually find some for $1 a pound in clean ingots. You can save some money at those prices.
 
I've been casting for a couple years and get wheel weights free at the garage that services my cars.

Casting has been fun... shooting cast boolits has been trying.

Be prepared to buy a Lewis Lead Removal Kit....
 
Casting has been fun... shooting cast boolits has been trying.

Be prepared to buy a Lewis Lead Removal Kit....

I must have been lucky because this has not been the case for me............with one exception.

I cast for .38 Spcl, .40 and .45 Colt with no issues whatsoever. I can go out and shoot hundreds of rounds and my bore looks as clean as the day I bought it. (Okay, maybe not quite that clean).

However, casting 9mm has been the PITB for me. I sold my mold. I just buy plated for it now.
 
Try casting for rifle cartridges

I have never tried it for rifle cartridges but I can certainly see where it would be more challenging.

I've dabbled with the idea of casting for .30-30 Win but never have gotten around to trying it.
 
Should I Start Casting?

Casting is a labor of love and the satisfaction of making your own bullets or ( Boolits )
i love it
 
You might be surprised what you can scare up if you get the word out to your friends and co-workers etc. I got several buckets of scrap given to me to get started; most of my friends are hunters/fishermen and many seem to have saved lead over the years and not done anything with it. If you can secure a hundred or two pounds to start you'll be ahead of the game, even if you end up having to buy some at one point (likely). I cast for most all of my handguns and some rifle rounds, although handguns are an easier place to start on.
 
If you want to do it. Just round up the stuff and go for it. I traded and bought used stuff, especially moulds. Once you are tuned into it, it seems lead shows up in all kinds of places. With rare exception every pistol bullet I shoot is cast by me. Same with 30-30, 7.62x25 and others. Casting is much fun.
 
IMHO, you really need to 'want' to cast. You also need to be able to get lead for free or cheap to save any money. Not to mention placing very little value on your time. Personally, considering how much time is involved in scrounging lead, processing it, casting, lubing and sizing versus the $40-$50 I'd pay to buy 500 bullets, I just can't justify it. I'd rather be shooting and as such, I'm happy to buy cast bullets.

For example, if you buy lead from Missouri Bullet, you're saving about $12 per 500 bullets.
 
^^^^^ Most of the cast bullets I shoot are rifle bullets that nobody sells. Plus, most commercial bullets are lubed with terrible hard lubes chosen more for their ability to stay in the groove during shipping than how they perform in the gun.
 
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