I'm going to add another .40 S&W to my collection of .40s (Glock, Ruger, S&W 4006 and M&P) and am considering a Sig P226 or HK USP. I am interested in how they compare in the areas of trigger pull, accuracy, duriability-reliability and general shootability. Hope to hear from those of you who have owned both - thanks.
Sig or HK?
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I have a H&K because it fit my hand better. The Sig was a little awkward for me. I don't think you will find two better weapons.
Never a failure of any kind from the H&K.
May I suggest a look at CZ's also, you may be surprised.
I have a H&K because it fit my hand better. The Sig was a little awkward for me. I don't think you will find two better weapons.
Never a failure of any kind from the H&K.
May I suggest a look at CZ's also, you may be surprised.
If you like heavy and all metal, go with the Sig. If you like light and polymer, go with the HK. If you can, shoot both before deciding. The good part of your decision is that there is no wrong answer.
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Both are excellent pitols. Buy what shoots better for YOU.
I personally prefer HK because they are more lefty friendly and can be carried cocked and locked.
I personally prefer HK because they are more lefty friendly and can be carried cocked and locked.
The USP40 is surprisingly very easy to shoot. Low recoil even with the high bore axis. However, the best shooting .40 between SIG and HK would be the X5 L1 in .40S&W.
Regardless, I currently prefer HK over SIG.
Regardless, I currently prefer HK over SIG.
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I am interested in how they compare in the areas of trigger pull, accuracy, duriability-reliability and general shootability.
I have the HK USP 45F and it has been flawless in 4000 rounds. I had a 226 in 9mm and it to was flawless. I choose the HK because I wanted a 45 with more than 7-8 rounds. plus I heard about HK's reliability. After renting one at the range, I was sold. I bought one the next day and have never regretted it. But, in .40, I don't know.
the way that I see it (keeping the above in mind):
Trigger- the Sig is the better pull, hands down.
Accuracy- they are most likely tied. My USP and 226 both grouped less than 1.25" at 25 yds from a rest.
Durability/ reliability- Again, tied-I don't think that you could wrong either way.
Shoot ability- Honestly, I have to give the edge to the USP here- The 226 always felt better in the hand, but the USP always felt better shooting. It just seemed to be easier to shoot quickly and accurately. But again, that is my experience (2 different calibers, though) your mileage may vary.
Other things to consider- The 226 is da/sa/ decocker. The USP is da/sa/decocker and has a manual safety. I like manual safeties and the ability to carry cocked and locked.
Both are great designs and I don't thing that you could go wrong either way. Try them both and then decide.
I am interested in how they compare in the areas of trigger pull, accuracy, duriability-reliability and general shootability.
I have the HK USP 45F and it has been flawless in 4000 rounds. I had a 226 in 9mm and it to was flawless. I choose the HK because I wanted a 45 with more than 7-8 rounds. plus I heard about HK's reliability. After renting one at the range, I was sold. I bought one the next day and have never regretted it. But, in .40, I don't know.
the way that I see it (keeping the above in mind):
Trigger- the Sig is the better pull, hands down.
Accuracy- they are most likely tied. My USP and 226 both grouped less than 1.25" at 25 yds from a rest.
Durability/ reliability- Again, tied-I don't think that you could wrong either way.
Shoot ability- Honestly, I have to give the edge to the USP here- The 226 always felt better in the hand, but the USP always felt better shooting. It just seemed to be easier to shoot quickly and accurately. But again, that is my experience (2 different calibers, though) your mileage may vary.
Other things to consider- The 226 is da/sa/ decocker. The USP is da/sa/decocker and has a manual safety. I like manual safeties and the ability to carry cocked and locked.
Both are great designs and I don't thing that you could go wrong either way. Try them both and then decide.
The questions should really be:
1) Good customer service or not?
2) Reliable or not?
3) Accurate or not?
4) Durable or not?
Both HK and SIG get a YES for #2, #3, and #4. Only SIG gets a YES on #1.
1) Good customer service or not?
2) Reliable or not?
3) Accurate or not?
4) Durable or not?
Both HK and SIG get a YES for #2, #3, and #4. Only SIG gets a YES on #1.
You already have a couple of polymer pistols in your collection. HK is a good firearm but it will not do anything that your glock or M&P can't do.
The SIG gets my vote. I just got a 226ST (unshot yet), man it's really beautifully made: tight barrel lockup, great balance, nice single action break, double action not so bad at all.
I also have a new 229 in 40 S&W. Though it's aluminum framed, it was very soft shooting from my last range session. It's reduced recoil was a pleasant surprise. I was shooting WWB.
Good luck in your decision.
The SIG gets my vote. I just got a 226ST (unshot yet), man it's really beautifully made: tight barrel lockup, great balance, nice single action break, double action not so bad at all.
I also have a new 229 in 40 S&W. Though it's aluminum framed, it was very soft shooting from my last range session. It's reduced recoil was a pleasant surprise. I was shooting WWB.
Good luck in your decision.
I have to disagree 100% that Sig gets a yes for good customer service.
Both are very good guns, but my personal experience has been better with HK both in reliability and customer service.
Both are very good guns, but my personal experience has been better with HK both in reliability and customer service.
I have both Sig's and HK's. I like the HK's because they fit my hand better. I love my P2000 and my P2000SK in .40 because I can change the back strap to fit my hand. I have a Sig P220 though which I love! Get both.
Hah, I had the same dilemma years ago in 9mm. I went with Sig P228, and within a few months had traded for a USP as well.
In the long run, I tend to grab the USP first.
In the long run, I tend to grab the USP first.
Sig 226 cause to me it soaks up the recoil of the .40 S&W better. In fact, it's the only .40 S&W I own. I bought two (226R and 226ST) in two months.
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