Quoting ckone: "That's 'cause most Sig owners rarely shoot! Sig owners are so busy picking out fancy grips and saving for expensive "upgrades" to bring their pistols up to a normal standard (SRT, etc.) that they never really go shooting... If they did they'd know I'm not jokeing when I point out that their overpriced guns are heavy, thick, have too many levers in the way of a proper shooting grip, have the slide release in the worst spot ever and tend to choke next to ugly plastic guns at matches..."
Ah, match shooting. Why is a match shooting grip the only "proper" grip? That "proper" grip might not fare so well in a force-on-force training session, or a contact-distance street fight. A SIG's controls are placed just fine for a fighting grip, especially for the double-action pull. I can understand a high-thumb position for lighter single-action and "safe-action" pulls, when on a peaceful shooting range.
Even in "for score" shooting mode, with a SIG, if I choose to not lock my thumb down, my horizontal thumb is below the level of the slide stop lever, and does not touch the decocker. This assumes right-hand mode, anyway. I often favor shooting as a lefty, especially with a DA/SA SIG, in which case the controls, and that decocker hump in the left grip panel, are out of the way, regardless of thumb position. Not that the SIG is forcing me to shoot lefty; I often prefer to shoot 1911s lefty, too, and use that same horizontal thumb position, which is LOWER than the safety lever.
I am not taking sides in the Glock-versus-SIG conflict. P229 and P226 SIGs fit me well. SIG P220s and P245s point too low for me. Glocks don't fit me, but that is not the fault of the gun itself. I also prefer the SIG DAK trigger over the Glock "safe-action," but that is not the fault of the Glock.
I used Glocks for a while, two of them being G22 models I bought for duty use. One gave me some drama, the other ran well, except for one embarrassing malf during a shooting class. My P229s have been boringly reliable. They are also quite stock, except for TJ's Custom triggers I installed, to facilitate the DA pulls, in which I like my finger to roll across a narrower trigger face. Factory grip panels. Factory springs.
Edited to add: FWIW, I wear a big-city PD badge, and have to buy my duty firearms. The P226 and P229 are the two most expensive weapons on the list of approved DA .40 autopistols, while the Glock G22 and G23 are much less expensive.
Ah, match shooting. Why is a match shooting grip the only "proper" grip? That "proper" grip might not fare so well in a force-on-force training session, or a contact-distance street fight. A SIG's controls are placed just fine for a fighting grip, especially for the double-action pull. I can understand a high-thumb position for lighter single-action and "safe-action" pulls, when on a peaceful shooting range.
Even in "for score" shooting mode, with a SIG, if I choose to not lock my thumb down, my horizontal thumb is below the level of the slide stop lever, and does not touch the decocker. This assumes right-hand mode, anyway. I often favor shooting as a lefty, especially with a DA/SA SIG, in which case the controls, and that decocker hump in the left grip panel, are out of the way, regardless of thumb position. Not that the SIG is forcing me to shoot lefty; I often prefer to shoot 1911s lefty, too, and use that same horizontal thumb position, which is LOWER than the safety lever.
I am not taking sides in the Glock-versus-SIG conflict. P229 and P226 SIGs fit me well. SIG P220s and P245s point too low for me. Glocks don't fit me, but that is not the fault of the gun itself. I also prefer the SIG DAK trigger over the Glock "safe-action," but that is not the fault of the Glock.
I used Glocks for a while, two of them being G22 models I bought for duty use. One gave me some drama, the other ran well, except for one embarrassing malf during a shooting class. My P229s have been boringly reliable. They are also quite stock, except for TJ's Custom triggers I installed, to facilitate the DA pulls, in which I like my finger to roll across a narrower trigger face. Factory grip panels. Factory springs.
Edited to add: FWIW, I wear a big-city PD badge, and have to buy my duty firearms. The P226 and P229 are the two most expensive weapons on the list of approved DA .40 autopistols, while the Glock G22 and G23 are much less expensive.
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Listen, both are good guns as are several other brands like the Springfield XD, CZ, S&W M&P, HK etc. I know lots of people who own Glocks and very few who own Sigs. I also know that at one point, Glock had captured more than %40 of the LEO Market while brands like S&W, Springfield, HK and SIG divied up the the rest of the market. That means there were roughly 3 Glocks out there to any other single brand. Actually if they all had an equal share of the remaining market it would figure at 2 and 2/3rds to one assuming there were only four competitors for the remaining 60%. The reason that that is relevant is easy, the more guns a company produces the more problems they will have. It is simply a matter of percentages. If the civilian market is reflective of the Law enforcement market, as it often, then it is reasonable to assume that many more people own Glocks than own Sigs. So, it also stands to reason that you will read of more cases of failures/problems with the Glock than the Sig.