Simmons 22mag rimfire scope for 10/22

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Hey everyone, so I want to get my dad a scope for his 10/22. He doesn't hunt, or shoot much past 50 yards.

Also, I know nothing about scopes.

I have read that the Simmons 22mag rimfire scope 3-9x 32mm Truplex is a decent (and affordable) choice. However, in reading the reviews on midway, a few people are suggesting that different rings need to be purchased to supplement toe so so rings that are included with the scope.

What rings are these?

Is this scope a good choice for a 10/22? Are there other options for a 10/22 scope for less than $50.00?

Thanks everyone!

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All of the poor reviews I've read of Simmons centers squarely on the supplied rings.
Have no personal experience with the rings but have an 8 point 4x on a 10/22 for well past 2 years now. Also, have used an 8 point 3x9 on a 270 & 30-06.

Bottom line. I think basic Simmons scopes offer more than the average/ casual shooter will need at a great price. They are light. They hold zero and give a good clear view of the target with very little fuss. They are better than the average shooter IMO. I've never dunked one on a bucket of water or froze one in the freezer so can't comment on scope torture. They are dead on and you can replace them for about the cost of a cheap date.

Cheap rings are about $12 at Walmart.
 
I can't comment on the 32mm version but I recently got myself a Simmons 3-9x40 Pro Target model and love it.

This scope did not come with rings so I got some lower end Weaver bases. I felt that these should be fine for a .22 where there simply isn't a lot of kick.

I could not be happier with these choices. For range only use I like that the Pro Target version has the exposed finger operated adjustment turrets and that the side mounted target focus is easy to use since I shoot at a variety of distances from 25 to 100 yards. The full time exposed adjustment and focus turrets make switching distances easy and quick.

I've seen other more expensive scopes and granted such models do tend to be somewhat brighter and sharper. But for the money and for casual shooting I feel that the Simmons was an excellent product for the price range. The optical quality is easily good enough to allow for long shooting sessions with little or no eye fatigue. Something I cannot say for other cheap optics that I've tried.
 
Thanks for the advice so far guys! Now, why exactly do I need these rings? Doesn't the scope come with them? Will they work with the mounting kit included with the 10/22, or are they meant to replace it?
 
Simmons makes a great entry-level scope. People have reportedly used their 3-9x32 .22 Mag scopes on everything up to .30-06 with no problems. If you're just using it on a .22, it'll be all you'll ever need and more.

Most scopes do not come with rings. Simmons rimfire scopes do, and they will work just fine as long as your rifle has Weaver / Picatinny mounts and not the dovetails typical of older rimfires. Leapers / UTG rings are generally okay, though I have seen one set fail under tightening. Warne rings are much better; their 4-screw models are absolutely bulletproof.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortb...&newcategorydimensionid=11339&searchscope=all
 
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Now, why exactly do I need these rings?
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The Simmons 22 Mag scope comes with 3/8" groove tip-off rings.
Most all .22 rifles have a 3/8" groove milled into the top of the receiver these rings fit.

The Ruger 10/22 is an exception, and it comes with a scope base you attach to the receiver with screws.

The older 10/22 rifles came with a 3/8" grooved base rail. (No cross-slots)
For this base you'd use .22 "Tip-off" rings that come with the scope.

The newer rifles come with a Wever style rail. (several cross slots).
For this base you'd use Weaver-style rings.

http://www.opticsplanet.com/weaver-...z4AAA&ef_id=UnlNNwAABHiDigLi:20131107185555:s



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I have one on a Marlin .22WMR. I'm happy with it. It works as well as the I can shoot the rifle. I can't recall what I did with the rings.
 
I've bought two of the 4X Simmons .22 Mag scopes and picked one up for a friend as well. Didn't use the supplied rings on any of them because yes, they are sub-par.

While the Simmons offers very good glass for the money the windage and elevation dials lack the precision of competitively priced models. Since all were bound for first-time users/kids who won't be adjusting them it wasn't a deal breaker but for a more seasoned shooter...

You don't say if your father's 10/22 is new or not so you may want to determine if he still has the scope base or not, many times gun parts go missing over the years.

If he's not hunting with it, BSA's Sweet 22 is on sale at SWFA for $39.99 and offers an adjustable objective. If money is tight, perhaps getting other family members in on the gift might allow for nicer glass and a set of Burris Zee rings?
 
Skyler bone: The 10/22 is no more than two or three years old, and he still has the mounts and base.
 
For QD rings, I like the Warne rings. For the money, they work well on my AR. Got the rifle zeroed, removed the scope, put the scope back on... shots were only low right by about 1/2" @ 100 yards. I'd call it a pass for $60.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/930489/warne-1-maxima-quick-detachable-weaver-style-rings-matte-medium

On the Simmons 22mag scope... I just don't know. I put one on a Mossberg Chuckster with a set of BKL offset rings. After getting it zeroed, I had about 100 rounds through the rifle when the retical wire snapped. I thought I was seeing things at first. There's always lemon law, but instead of trading for another one and dealing with warranty mailing... I just bought a different scope. (Vortex Diamondback AO).
 
I had a tasco pronghorn scope on my 10/22 for about 7-8 years before it was stolen and it never lost zero. it was my truck gun and was not treated nicely. I know a lot of people don't like tasco but that was one tuff scope. i don't remember what rings i had but they were just walmart cheap stuff....
 
Here are those Savages with their Simmons scopes.

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I paid $32/ea. at Dunhams with 20% off coupons (available via email). I'll stress again, the Simmons doesn't track well making yardage changes an frustrating event but they do hold zero and work well once a specific distance is chosen.
 
I have three Simmons 22 mag scopes, two are 3x9, the third just a fixed 4x. The problem with the rings IMO, is not the quality but they are two high. The 22 Mags have a 32mm objective and the rings put the scope too high for a good cheek weld. I have replaced with with low rings.

I use those 10/22s with the Simmons scopes as Appleseed www.appleseedinfo.org loaners and the do see a lot of use. After a year and a half of heavy use one of the 3x9's reticules turned inside the scope. Simmons replaced the scope under warranty.
 
The main thing I like about my Simmons .22 Mag is the AO feature. I mainly use my .22 rifle to protect my tropical fruit trees. Last night I scanned my yard with my night vision moncular and saw a coon. I rushed outside and chased him up a nearby tree, where he didn't climb very high. I had to dial that AO ring way down because it wasn't even ten feet between the rifle's muzzle and that coon's head. With the magnification and AO turned down, he was in perfect focus for a perfect shot.
Most of my armadillo kills are extremely close as well.
The only thing I don't like about my scope are the target turrets, because it's very difficult to mount a shooting light on the scope because they are in the way. I like the old-fashioned turrets better.
 
I like my Simmons scope on my .22 LR Model 60. It is older, and has a nice thick retical that makes a diamond before the fine cross hairs. You can zero at 50 yards with the fine crosshairs, and then use the top of the thick post diamond for a 100 yard hold, and it will flat out work.
I also like a 6x scope for 50 yard hunting with a .22 LR. Some like a 4x, but I like the 6x I think it is a good compromise and give better view then when set on 9x.
 
I'm using a Simmons .22 mag with adjustable objective on my new Henry H001. Works fine, but is pretty susceptible to glare. I bought either Burris or Millet steel rings that fit the grooved receiver.

I'd recommend just about any brand of steel rings for that 10-22. I currently have a Bushnell trs-25 mounted on my 10-22, but have had assorted scopes mounted on it over the years.

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While the Simmons 22 mag scope I have is very clear and has a correct paralax for 22 shooting, the .83 MOA clicks for adjusting zero are not really very precise.
 
As Mark A said above, I also had the reticle snap at the crosshair on my first one. I was able to get the store to take it back for exchange for another one. The second one lasted almost a month (no more than 500 rounds through it) on before it snapped as well. I was also able to get the store to exchange that for another one, but I haven't put the third one on anything yet. The rifle used was a Marlin 60 in perfect working condition (bolt-buffer in tact, not broken or missing). Interestingly enough, once zeroed and after being broken, using the crosshair despite being broken on one section was still perfectly zeroed.

The rings slipped on my Marlin 60's rail no matter how tight they were, so I ended up getting another base with integral rings that took care of that shortly after buying the first one.

The parallax was the biggest problem since it was fixed at 50yds. 50yd shots were clear and easy. 25 or 75yds, not so much.

I would NOT buy another entry-level Simmons scope due to my experience.
 
Thanks again for all of your input folks. I think I'm gonna put a hold on buying a scope, and get my dad something else for Christmas.
 
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