Jordan
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I'm wondering:
when a magazine review states a rifle will shoot, say, 3/4 moa, or your buddy asks you how your rifle shoots and you tell him 1 moa, or you buy a high-end precision rifle and it is "guaranteed" to shoot 1/2"... is that stating the BEST YOU WILL EVER SEE OUT OF IT? Or is that what you can count on as a CONSISTANT AVERAGE (figuring the right ammo, no wind, etc, etc)?
The reason I'm asking, I've been putting a lot of money into an accurate rifle lately and I can't say it will shoot 1/2moa consistantly. I can't say it will shoot 5 rounds into 3/4" consistantly.
I generally come back from the range with a few targets with tight little 1/2 clover leafs. And several more that are more like an inch!
Then I open up "Hunting" magazine and see the latest RemChester review boasting the author's 5/8" groups using some sloppy hunting ammo! Did he shoot ALL DAY to get that lucky group? Or am I just unlucky that none of my production rifles will shoot ANYTHING like that?
So what gives! I've certainly put as much care (read: money) into building it as the "guaranteed" 1/2 inch guns(McMillan, Robar, etc). And while they're stipulating factory "match" ammo to achieve this, I'm using carefully constructed, tuned to my rifle, taking all the extra steps, handloads!
What are the established rules for stating the accuracy of a given rifle? Have I misunderstood them and am now persuing a totally unreasonable goal of a RELIABLE 1/2-3/4? If someone tells me their FAL shoots sub-moa, it that like saying they caught a fish that was "T H I S" big!?
when a magazine review states a rifle will shoot, say, 3/4 moa, or your buddy asks you how your rifle shoots and you tell him 1 moa, or you buy a high-end precision rifle and it is "guaranteed" to shoot 1/2"... is that stating the BEST YOU WILL EVER SEE OUT OF IT? Or is that what you can count on as a CONSISTANT AVERAGE (figuring the right ammo, no wind, etc, etc)?
The reason I'm asking, I've been putting a lot of money into an accurate rifle lately and I can't say it will shoot 1/2moa consistantly. I can't say it will shoot 5 rounds into 3/4" consistantly.
I generally come back from the range with a few targets with tight little 1/2 clover leafs. And several more that are more like an inch!
Then I open up "Hunting" magazine and see the latest RemChester review boasting the author's 5/8" groups using some sloppy hunting ammo! Did he shoot ALL DAY to get that lucky group? Or am I just unlucky that none of my production rifles will shoot ANYTHING like that?
So what gives! I've certainly put as much care (read: money) into building it as the "guaranteed" 1/2 inch guns(McMillan, Robar, etc). And while they're stipulating factory "match" ammo to achieve this, I'm using carefully constructed, tuned to my rifle, taking all the extra steps, handloads!
What are the established rules for stating the accuracy of a given rifle? Have I misunderstood them and am now persuing a totally unreasonable goal of a RELIABLE 1/2-3/4? If someone tells me their FAL shoots sub-moa, it that like saying they caught a fish that was "T H I S" big!?