Slug round experiences / recommendations?

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Hello, THR...like they say on the radio, I am a long-time reader, first-time poster. I bet there is already a post along these lines on here somewhere, but I didn't see one too recently, so I hope you won't mind it.

Took a whitetail today in WV, the last day of firearms season here - about time, too, that was my only deer this season. I was participating in a managed "hunt," which isn't too sporting but when your chips are down it's a good fall-back for meat for your freezer, your friends, or charity.

The only arm permitted was a "modern shotgun" 20 gauge and up using slugs. It just so happened I had put in lots of range time with my Mossy 500 12 gauge equipped with the cantilever scope mount, rifled 22" barrel. For ammunition, I am partial to the Lightfield Commander IDS, which I cannot afford to buy off the shelf all the time, but I do handload them. I load them according to factory spec, so they are not meaningfully different from the factory loads.

I shot a deer out at about 90-100 yards. It was a pretty good shot (if I do say so myself), a double-lunger. You know how the rest of the story goes.

My concern/question is this: at 100 yards, this slug still had enough steam to punch right through this deer. It did not even do much damage, just perforated both lungs. The death was reasonably quick and all but certainly not optimal. While I appreciated the cleaner field dressing, I was a little concerned about what might have happened if this had been a more marginal shot.

It was a small deer, and I think lung is among the least dense tissues you could hit, but I was still surprised there was that much oomph and that little expansion in the round.

So, let me ask you experienced hands: is low expansion normal on a lung shot? Or perhaps normal for this slug? What slugs have you used that inspired confidence in you for their use on deer? Right now, I still like the Commander IDS, but I am thinking it is more of a large/dangerous game round than it is a whitetail round. Over-penetration at .73 caliber is not a huge deal, but if I could reduce my recoil some...that would be fine!
 
i use 2 3/4in rottwiel slugs when i go to a shotgun. they hit hard but also blow through like your worried about.
i think you will find few rounds that are legal to shoot a deer with that wont go through at 100yrds and i would certianly think that is true if you dont hit bone.

just my opinion. oh and worried about results with a more marginal shot? dont think there is any caliber that will make up for a bad shot and dont think there are many that will punch a bigger hole for a marginal shot
 
Well, that's a good point - there's no replacement for placement. I don't plan on making marginal shots, so there's no point in selecting a load for them. I guess I am trying to give myself room to mess up, but it's certainly true that it's a better policy just to not mess up.

One slug round I've shot in the past is the Brenneke K.O., which seems kind of hard to find nowadays. They were made right down the road from me though, in Kearneysville WV, I think, not sure if they still are. I thought it seemed a little anemic, but now I am thinking it might be an excellent choice.
 
30mag - Thanks for pointing those out, they look promising. I wonder how they reduce recoil...it says they do it with "technology," but I'm betting the main technology involved is a smaller powder charge. Still, getting those off the shelf or loading them (if possible) might work fine.
 
Early to mid 90s, we did a fair amount of herd control hunting over on MD's deer rich Eastern Shore. Sundry shotguns were used including some with rifled barrels. Shot opps were up to maybe 50 yards for the most part.

We found that the sabots of the time were wondrously accurate, but blood trails tended to be longer. We didn't lose any, but we got wet a couple times recovering deer from the moister parts. MD has lots of those.

Gradually, we all went to full bore slugs. I used Winchester 1 oz rifled slugs, the ones with the HP dimple in front, and then KO Brenekkes. Equipment of choice was an 870 with peep, mag extension, rifled tube and lots of experience. Worked very well under those conditions. Broadside shots with good placement meant blood trails Ray Charles could follow, maybe 70 yards at most, more like 50 typically.

HTH....
 
I shoot hornady ssts and Winchester supreme partition golds, both do well. I think the win hold up better with less fragmentation. Both will leave very respectable exit wounds, and depending on shot plcement , excellent blood trails.
 
thanks!

Thanks, Dave. Your experience on the Eastern Shore is very informative as I sort out my own. Seems like sabots are fun to shoot and they go right where you put them...but on the other hand, a slug that takes its design cues from anti-tank rounds is going to have great emphasis on penetration, and that's not necessarily optimal - especially on whitetails around here.

Thanks to everybody else, too...lots of things to look into for diversifying my slug inventory. Right now I am thinking the Brenneke-style slug will be cheap and fun for the handloader, a good performer in the field, and I think you can order them from Ballistic Products.
 
To me, slugs are only good for about 100 yards. And because of the decreased velocity it is only natural that you saw less expansion.

Nice shot by the way. Shot placement is so important to stopping power.
 
I've always liked the basic Winchester Super-X (in the white box, or is it the gray box now?). Cheap, reliable, works every time.
 
Ben, our rather casual record keeping at the time indicates the average shot opp was around 32 yards. MD brush runs very thick, and on the Shore everything that can be cultivated is. The deer live where it's too wet or steep to get machinery in.

I hunted all weapons all seasons, and my best year had at least 6 in the freezer burning up crop permits. The equipment used performed at least as well as a 50 caliber ML with a HP Buffalo bullet over a stiffish charge of FFF.

If conditions in your area warrant much longer shots, you may want a scoped 12 gauge rifle. We needed no such things to get meat and horns where we were.

And, taking any deer,even a smallish doe at 20 FEET is a real rush and a test of hunting skills like no other.
 
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