Small Revolvers used as Kit Guns

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My daughter has a 4-inch Taurus 941 (.22WMR). It's not a kit gun. I only mention it to reference the trigger. In single action, the trigger is crisp and easily manageable; in double action, the trigger is long and very heavy. We like the gun, but never shoot it DA.
 
My daughter has a 4-inch Taurus 941 (.22WMR). It's not a kit gun. I only mention it to reference the trigger. In single action, the trigger is crisp and easily manageable; in double action, the trigger is long and very heavy. We like the gun, but never shoot it DA.

What would it take to make that particular gun a "Kit Gun"? Remove the underlug and put on a shorter grip?

https://www.gunblast.com/Taurus941.htm
 
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At least. Cut an inch of the barrel, too. It's pretty heavy for its form factor. The 941 you show above might do.

But then, I'm no doubt spoiled by the 317. :)

At 11.7 ounces unloaded, I'm sure anything double the weight feels too heavy. My Bearcat Shopkeeper is a relative brick at a claimed 22 ounces, and it's a small gun. :D
 
I have a couple that may qualify, or at least come close:

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At least. Cut an inch of the barrel, too. It's pretty heavy for its form factor. The 941 you show above might do.

But then, I'm no doubt spoiled by the 317. :)
The full-lug on the 941 isn’t needed, I sure don’t feel the recoil with mine. I never figured out why Taurus went to that on the .22 Mag. The 94 is very trim and handy without it, I wish they had just kept that style rolling.

Mine also has a stiff DA trigger pull. I’ll try to remember to measure it and see how it compares to my S&W Model 48 .22 mag trigger pull.

Stay safe.
 
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Does a s&w 32 long jframe with a three inch barrel count?
my favorite gun. Mine is a 30-1. If you google Altamont Altai my gun is the blued gun sitting on a brown couch cushion... I like it a lot, and apparently it has been viewed a few times of its that high on the google search.
 
Guns in my safe that qualify as having kit gun potential...
Phoenix hp22
Mauser 1914 32acp
Glock 42
Arminius HW3 22lr snub
S&W 30-1 32swl 3”
S&W safety hammerless 38sw 3”
Taurus m327 327fm 2”
RG 32swl 2”
S&W 10-6 4” (big but not too big)

and today’s acquisitions which will be here soon...
S&W safety hammerless 32sw
S&W baby Russian 38sw
Charter Undercover 38spl
Miroku Liberty Chief 38spl

Maybe I need to put together a kit...or ten...
 
I guess that I have the opinion that a 22/32 kit gun is a something along the lines of a 2" barreled S&W J-frame chambered in 22LR.

From my M63 papers, this is how S&W defined "kit gun" in the 70's/80's.View attachment 905881

My original comment about 2" barreled 22LR J-frame guns being the only 22/32 Kit guns was just an opinion on my part.

sparkyv's post showing the S&W owners manual with a 4" Model 63 has adjusted my opinion.

I do like my 3" S&W Model 317 is a great gun to squirrel away in a kit.
 
Nice collection. Fill us in on what you have there. :)

Ok here goes, top to bottom:

Rossi 511
Rossi Plinker 22
Ruger Bearcat
Astra Cadix 22
H&R 922

The Plinker and the 511 had sights that were dead on when I got them, the Cadix had to be zeroed. I got lucky with the Ruger and the H&R, the fixed sights are very well regulated, no need to try to adjust.
 
Called "The Camper" by H&R when it had the 4" barrel, this most definitely qualifies (though not a S&W)... Shoots great, too! Made the holster from a kit from Hobby Lobby for $8.

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I should mention that it does not have a swing out cylinder - you have to pull the pin each time, but you can press it through from the front of the cylinder once removed and it ejects all 9 fired cases at once.

I've also got a 2" INA Tiger in .32 S&W Long kicking around that's a clone of the I-Frame that would work just fine, if you're willing to accept non .22 revolvers. No pictures of that one yet.
 
Out of curiosity, what is the purpose of a kit gun?
Outside of psychological assurance offered, I could never figure that one out.
I do think they are cool, and even had a stainless S&W for awhile(I wish I still had it!) but I couldn't figure out what I'd ever actually use it for.

Too slow to draw from my "kit" to deal with rattlers.
Too anemic report to signal three shots for an SOS
Will only PO a marauding bear
Not a first choice (nor second nor third choice) for defense against dueling banjo playing misfits.
If collecting meat for the dinner pot, a rifle would far and away more productive if you actually wanted to eat something,

What are kit guns good for other than plinking at pine cones?
 
I had a Model 94 Taurus revolver.

It was a 5" or 6" with adjustable sights.

It was a nice revolver in general, but the DA trigger pull was so long and stiff that I traded it towards something else.
 
Out of curiosity, what is the purpose of a kit gun?
Outside of psychological assurance offered, I could never figure that one out.
I do think they are cool, and even had a stainless S&W for awhile(I wish I still had it!) but I couldn't figure out what I'd ever actually use it for.

Too slow to draw from my "kit" to deal with rattlers.
Too anemic report to signal three shots for an SOS
Will only PO a marauding bear
Not a first choice (nor second nor third choice) for defense against dueling banjo playing misfits.
If collecting meat for the dinner pot, a rifle would far and away more productive if you actually wanted to eat something,

What are kit guns good for other than plinking at pine cones?

When I was younger (12 to 35 years old) and I actually went camping, fishing, canoeing out in nature I would have loved to have what I have now.

Back in my young adulthood, my only two handguns were a 6" Ruger GP100 and a Beretta Bobcat in .22LR. I used that Beretta as a "kit gun" even though it wasn't a kit gun, plus I didn't know what a S&W Kit Gun was. For me, that Beretta was merely a plinker meant to pass time when I wasn't actively fishing or paddling. Usually at the end of the day, the Beretta would come out of my fanny pack (remember those?) and I'd fire a magazine or two at whatever deserved to be plinked. I did think it would be a good self defense gun, before I learned better.

That blued GP100 never got taken on canoe trips. It was too heavy, too expensive to be near water (fresh and salt), and way too loud. Of course, it was a much better self defense gun.

The rifles I had back then were a Norinco SKS and a Marlin 39AS. Again, one was too loud and one was too expensive to go in the canoe. Rifles don't belong in the bottom of a canoe anyway, unless you just like them getting soaked.

I never worried about bears, but I ran across gators on several occasions here in Southeast Texas in that canoe. Paddle, paddle, paddle!!! :eek:

Water moccasins? Same answer. :D

In retrospect, I should have spent the money on something like a C.A. Pathfinder or H&R back then instead of the Beretta, but I didn't know squat about Charter Arms, my dream H&R 999 was too much money, and the Beretta was found at a used price in a pawn shop. If I had the Pathfinder I have now, I could've actually hit something on the first shot, while the Beretta had to be "walked in" to the target. Plus, I would have also highly likely popped a tree rat or two and have my squirrel hunting friend prep us a campfire dinner. He used only a BB gun for that duty, which meant close range and multiple shots. An accurate .22 handgun could have done the same job in one shot.

That's not an answer as much as a bad story of should've, could've, would've. I do think a kit gun has a purpose for those that have a use for them. These days, a kit gun would be something for me to simply own and shoot. My canoeing days are long behind me.
 
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Another Bobcat memory is dirt biking. I had a Kawasaki KDX200 from age 26 to 33. I had a dirtbike specific tool/canteen belt that I cut open one of the two plastic canteens to hold that Bobcat. I'd go out for a ride in the woods and when I'd take a break I'd pull out that Bobcat for some plinking. I'd have done exactly the same with a kit gun sized revolver if I had one back then.
 
Out of curiosity, what is the purpose of a kit gun?

"Kit guns are multi-purpose utility handguns, intended to be used for small game hunting, plinking, pest control, even self defense. They are generally small, lightweight, .22 rimfire revolvers, designed to be easily packed in a hunting, camping or fishing "kit".[1] They are ideally suited for shooting snake shot at snakes, rodents, birds, and other pest at very close range. They are also commonly used to euthanase animals or provide the coup de grâce by hunters and fishermen."

Quote from Wikipedia. Take its value as you will. The entire article is here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kit_gun
 
Here is my kit gun .

It was a 4” Taurus 94 that looked like it was in the bottom of a jon boat for the last 5 years. After cleaning it, I found it was very accurate.

I cut the barrel down with a hacksaw then polished the muzzle. I did not crown it and it is still better looking that the factory crown.

I did this so it will fit in my pocket when bow hunting/woods bumming. I frequently have squirrels 6-10’ away from me while hunting, and I like eating squirrels. $20 per arrow is too much for a squirrel... but a 22 short is cheap and quiet.

My IDEAL kit gun was a 4” SP101 .357. I had it for a year or so. It was very accurate with 357s but the barrel was very poorly made/chattered. It leaded badly with WC and SWC. I sold it after Ruger said it was in spec. It could be carried IWB in town and carried like a large knife on the belt. With WC it was fine for rabbits and could take a deer if needed.


I like “kit guns”. I spend a lot of time on USFS land.
 

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I do actually have an H&R 999, but it's got the 6" barrel, and would be a bit unwieldy for a hiking pistol. It's not a small revolver once holstered - think a Single Six with equivalent barrel length. Now, a 3" version would be pretty alright (which H&R offered from 1935-1941, per B. Goforth), especially with the Defender-style grips. Pictured is the 925 (in .38 S&W) with the style setup I'm talking about. Unfortunately, they never produced quite this setup...

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I do actually have an H&R 999, but it's got the 6" barrel, and would be a bit unwieldy for a hiking pistol. It's not a small revolver once holstered - think a Single Six with equivalent barrel length. Now, a 3" version would be pretty alright (which H&R offered from 1935-1941, per B. Goforth), especially with the Defender-style grips. Pictured is the 925 (in .38 S&W) with the style setup I'm talking about. Unfortunately, they never produced quite this setup...

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That 925 is a very nicely sized H&R! :cool:

I too have a 999, but I didn't get it in time for my canoeing days. It's a very good small frame revolver and feels light in the hand, but I agree that 6" barrel is just too long and the full size grip is just too meaty for my 999 to be a kit gun.

EDIT: Found a pic of a 925 in .22LR from this webpage. :) https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/h-r-model-925.98286/

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