Smith 686 PC vs Colt Python

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I just want to throw this out. Flame on. I think that my 686 PC is better than a Python because:

Hand fitted and tuned action just like the Python.

More modern revolver look.

It is a Smith!

I don't think that Colt wants to compete with Smith's PC models.

Chime on in.
 
The 686 has a full length under-lug based on what? - The Colt Python. Colt did not shorten their under-lug to that of say, a Model 19.

Colt didn't have to up-size their I frame to handle hot, light .357 Magnums. That's why the L frame was designed. The Python doesn't have a cut-down forcing cone to accommodate the frame, as did the K frame.

There is no comparison between the two lock works. Completely different - Apples and oranges.

Colt no longer builds revolvers. So, the comparison is what?

Pristine 686's don't bring $3K+ like pristine Pythons.
 
people probably think their ruger americans are better than holland & holland double rifles too. after all, they have that "more modern rifle look". :rolleyes:
 
I won't flame, I have no experience with either gun. I own several .357's, they all shoot better than I do, and they definitely LOOK better that I ever will

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Eh, different guns.

If anybody gives you too much grief you can ask them how many top competitors are using Pythons in ICORE, USPSA, or IDPA.

Of course on the other hand if 20 years ago you would have started socking away Pythons as opposed to Smith and Wessons, the net worth contest would go to the Snake fans ;)
 
I've had a great deal of experience with both the S & W Model 586 and the Python. I'll say this, the S & W Model 586 cylinder is long enough to take my heavy bullet loads (173 gr. Keith SWC) without crimping over the shoulder. Can't say this about any Colt DA .357 Magnum, or the S & W Models 27 and 28, either.

When S & W introduced their Distinguished Combat Magnum, I got one, disposed of my Python, and never looked back. Not being particularly fond of shiny stainless steel guns, I've stuck with my 586s.

Bob Wright
 
Owned both. Sold the Colts & kept the Smiths. The Colt's were pretty but the Smiths were better working guns, especially for DA shooting.
 
Probably because of "Hollywood", a lifetime ago (probably 1980's) I thought about buying a Python, and actually had one sitting three feet away from me in a showcase at Tamiami Guns in Miami, but passed on it. I guess anyone can still buy them - for lots of $$$$.

Buying it to keep on a shelf in a showcase makes perfect sense, if one has the desire and the $$$. I'm not so sure about buying it to just go out and use it as a handgun. With all the stories I've been reading on the internet, there are very few people nowadays who know how to work on them properly. I'm not sure if those stories are true or not; I guess I'd like to know.

In my own silly opinion, it's like comparing a Ferrari to a Corvette. One is a very high tech piece of equipment, expensive to maintain, and expensive to buy parts for if needed. The other is high-tech, but not as exotic, easier to work on, and parts are readily available.

Maybe someone who has actually shot both can chime in here, and say how they compared; better yet, if the person has owned both for a while. As to comparing a Python to a S&W, I think you'd have to define the comparison a bit more - comparing for looks, accuracy, reliability, cost, value, and what you're going to be shooting.
 
I agree

Had a chance to buy a M-27 or a Python in 1976 each for $300.00 new. Bought the M-27.
Later traded into three different Pythons and alway went back to the S&W. People serious about shooting almost never kept a Python as they didn't hold up as well and were harder to work on. A tuned S&W is a joy.
People paid lots of money to customise and develop S&W PPC, Bullseye and Bowling pin guns. Pythons were a exception. They seldom were seen at matches.
 
I own/have owned a good number Pythons and shoot them regularly. My shooter's are '70 ' s era guns. I don't baby them or limit my round count. I have never had to have them worked on.
 
I've owned & still own S&W & Colt.
If the choice is for a working gun & the S&W is a current production model with the ILS, I will choose the Colt. If the S&W is an older pre-lock model, I will choose the S&W.
If it for purely for the joy of owning a finely crafted firearm, the Colt wins hands down.
 
The Colt is incredibly overvalued, imo. I saw a 2 1/2" nickel python last weekend at a gunshow. I was so put off by the $2800 price tag that I didn't give it a second look. For $2800 I want to see something unique, produced in low numbers, and hard to find, something to me a python is not.

Nice guns, but I'll take an $800 586 over a $2500 Python any day, unless I'm turning around and reselling it.I don't even see a Python as much of an investment anymore anyways if you don't already have one..they have shot up so much in value recently, and they are relatively common. Like gold, I expect the values to fall somewhat in the future.

I just don't see the mystique of the Python, having held and shot them, as compared to my 586's. They aren't rare, they aren't unobtanium, and they honestly don't feel any smoother or better put together than guns I have shot costing less than half their cost. I have Smiths with just as good a trigger, if not better than the Python I shot.

I'll take a 586 that can be worked on if need be, to some overpriced Python that I have to pay double what I feel they are honestly worth. In fact, after looking at Pythons this year, I bought a 4" shooter 586 and a really nice, barely shot 6" 586 for less than the cost of a shooter Python.
There is nothing a python can do that a 586 can't except be a python, and that's not worth the money to me.
Probably a little sour grapes here, I would love having a Python, but imo they are waaaaay overvalued at this point. If I already owned one or more I'd be sitting pretty, that's for sure.
 
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Love 'em both and it's really super top end revolver vs super top end revolver. If I had to choose between a Python and a Smith 686 I couldn't lose no matter in my opinion. That said my "go to" .357 is a Dan Wesson 15-2VH and I'll put mine against the Python or the Smith offerings any day. :neener:

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Talk about lobbing a hand grenade into crowded room........

I don't own any colts because I think they are overpriced. But I'd happily own one and seat it next to my 686 PC. I like both guns.
 
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I shoot s&w's, 686's and 625's, in competitions but the triggers are still not as good as my Python. Not really a choice to be made in any case. The last "production" Pythons were made 15 years ago and the custom shop quit making them 10 years ago.
 
I just want to throw this out. Flame on. I think that my 686 PC is better than a Python because:

Hand fitted and tuned action just like the Python.

More modern revolver look.

It is a Smith!

I don't think that Colt wants to compete with Smith's PC models.

Chime on in.
So to make the comparison you obviously own both correct? One of each, a S&W 686 and a Colt Python.

Ron
 
kept my smith(s)- nice guns, price=to value for me, also have a couple customs, those are top quality, wouldn't take 3 pythons for each of them (tho 38 only so not really part of comparison)

sold my python(s)- nice guns but worth more $ than real "value" to me, good to flip and make some money on. nothing wrong with that
 
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I shoot s&w's, 686's and 625's, in competitions but the triggers are still not as good as my Python. Not really a choice to be made in any case. The last "production" Pythons were made 15 years ago and the custom shop quit making them 10 years ago.


Sounds like you shoot IDPgAy. Your triggers on your S&Ws must blow. My 38 Super 627 is Carmonized at 5.5lbs and buttery smooth.
 
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