Smith model 64-1 found, but...

[bikemutt]

I stumbled across a Smith 64-1 this week which is in excellent condition, but, someone added adjustable sights. I have to say that if I wasn't told the adjustable sights were added, I would have never guessed it. The job was done to a level that exceeds what even the factory would have done.

I guess the rub for me is I would not even have looked at that pistol if it didn't have adjustable sights, just not interested, I'd buy a model that already had those. On the other hand, if I were to buy it and discover that it just looks good and doesn't shoot so good, what will I encounter when I have to turn around and sell it?

The LGS wants $450 on consignment which seems in line price-wise with unmolested, used ones online.

Any thoughts on this? Did S&W make a stainless bull barrel like the 64 with adjustable sights?

 

[sgt127]

They did. But, it's called the model 67.

Could it be mismarked? Or, just hard to see the model numbet? If its a conversion, it would need a taller front sight and, it would seem foolish for someone to spend the money when the identical gun was being manufactured.

Can you post a pick?

 

[bannockburn]

bikemutt

Interesting find. Is the rear sight for a K frame or was it possibly taken from a J frame? Would like to view some photos of it and to see how the front sight was done as well. At that price ($450), it might be a bit of a roll of the dice if the sights have a problem with them (installation and/or adjustment), and you want to get your money back out of it.

 

[MikeJackmin]

My first guess is that this is a mismarked 67. Did the sights look like this?

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/359042556/11055104/dsc04694.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg

 

[bikemutt]

My first guess is that this is a mismarked 67. Did the sights look like this?

http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/359042556/11055104/dsc04694.jpg_thumbnail0.jpg

The sights, at least the front one, looks nothing like that. It's a pinned sight to start with.

 

[Old Fuff]

Something is very strange here. We need some good pictures. If someone simply added an adjustable rear sight the gun is going to shoot way too high.

 

[goon]

Look around in Shotgun News. There is some outfit selling them for $279 with a bobbed hammer.

J&G Sales maybe?
Can't remember.

 

[VA27]

Heavy barrel or thin? Price sounds a little high to me. Several months ago I picked up a really clean 64 pencil barrel for 350.

 

[Fremmer]

Can the adjustables be removed and replaced with the correct fixed sights?

If it isn't stock, use that as leverage to offer $375.00

 

[bikemutt]

OK, here's a picture I managed to get sent over. It is a heavy barrel in first-class condition.

 

[mesinge2]

Looks like a 67 with a new front sight to me but I guess it could just be an an awesome custom job to add a rear sight to a 64.

 

[sgt127]

I think that really is a 64 that someone milled out the rear, installed a factory rear sight and then added a front sight to match.

There are no striations on the top of the barrel. There's no ramp for the front sight. Its an older style rear sight with the square end (towards the barrel. The new ones are round)

It can't be converted back to its original configuration. You would have to weld everything back up and then mill the rear sight notch back in.

That said, it looks to be a well done conversion and, if it hits where its supposed to, would be a fine shooter. I would price it the same as a model 64 in comparable condition. $350 ish. The conversion hurt its value as a collectible, but, increased it as a shooter. That said, a 4" 64 is pretty much a Chevy in the gun world with no real collector value right now.

 

[PJSprog]

I have a 64, and love those guns. Great shooters. That said, while the added sights may made it a little more versatile, it surely has depreciated the gun's value. As noted above, someone went to a lot of trouble to turn it into a 67.

I got mine a few years ago in decent shape for $250. I don't think I would offer more than $300 for that one.

 

[bikemutt]

Advice taken THR. It is a consignment piece and I know their policy on those. I like the gun but I really don't like it enough to overpay, I'll let it be known what my value estimate is and let the chips fall where they may.

 

[Elkins45]

I'm in the minority here but I would pay $400 if the work was well done and the rest of the gun was in good shape. Model 10's with 60% finish are selling for >$300 these days and I recently gave $425 for a nice 67. Pre-lock S&W revolver prices have skyrocketed recently, even for very pedestrian and cosmetically challenged pieces.

 

[bannockburn]

bikemutt

Certainly seems like it's a first rate job but it's only worth as much to you as what your willing to pay for it. Might be really tough to sell if the sights weren't properly installed. Let us know what they come back with as per your offer.

 

[gotboostvr]

I'd snap it up if I could talk them under 400.

 

[jad0110]

I think that really is a 64 that someone milled out the rear, installed a factory rear sight and then added a front sight to match.

There are no striations on the top of the barrel. There's no ramp for the front sight. Its an older style rear sight with the square end (towards the barrel. The new ones are round)

I was thinking the exact same thing. It really does appear to be a converted 64. From the pics, it does look like a top notch job.

That couldn't have been cheap. Why someone would pour that sort of money into a gun that they could trade for a 67 for less $$$ outlay is beyond me, unless they did the work themselves.

Then again, I knew someone in college that bought a brand new Mustang V6 and then dumped $5,000 of performance parts into it. He had a car that was still slower than a GT, with a void factory warranty .

 

[BSA1]

I suggest you shoot it first if at all possible to make sure the rear sight has enough adjustment to match point of aim.

The gun looks nice and the work looks professional but there is a reason why it is for sale that cheap.

 

[bikemutt]

I bought it

Well, week after week I kept looking at this revolver, wondering, hoping someone would buy it. I just couldn't stand it any longer so, she's in my safe tonight.

I'll post some nicer pictures tomorrow, and of course, when I can, a range report.

I don't really know why I adopted this one, I just have a good feeling about it. Hope I'm right. Wish me luck

 

[bannockburn]

Looking forward to seeing it, especially as to how well the sights were actually installed and how well it shoots. Hopefully it's all good and you've added another quality S&W revolver to your collection.