Smith & Wesson's .50-Caliber Magnum: Go Ahead Bambi, Make My Day!

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Smith & Wesson's .50-Caliber Magnum: Go Ahead Bambi, Make My Day!


By Robert Paul Reyes
Nov. 26, 2004

Dirty Harry must be suffering Magnum-envy. Smith & Wesson has introduced its biggest handgun ever, a .50-caliber Magnum.

The five-shot revolver with an 8 1/2-inch barrel weighs a hefty 4 1/2 pounds -- about a pound more than the .44 Magnum wielded by movie tough guy Dirty Harry.

It fires a new .50-caliber cartridge that Smith & Wesson claims produces nearly three times the muzzle energy of the .44 -- or enough stopping power to bring down a charging bull or a ravenous Oprah charging the buffet line.

"The primary market for it is hunting big game, a Smith & Wesson spokesperson said. I can imagine a brave hunter going into the woods with his .50 Magnum in search of dangerous wild animals. "Go ahead Bambi, Make My Day!"

The recoil on such a powerful weapon must be strong enough to knock down a linebacker flat on his back. I don't want to be in the same zip code with a Bubba hunting with a .50 caliber gun.

The intended market may be sportsmen but the criminal element will soon get their hands on those hand cannons. Police Officers will have to patrol the streets in tanks in order to be safe from monstrous .50 bullets. A bullet of that caliber will leave an exit wound big enough to drive a Mack truck through.

It won't be easy prying .50 caliber bazookas from the cold dead hands of phallic-impaired gun fanatics.

I own a gun, but I don't see the need for a .50- caliber Magnum revolver. How sporting is it for a sportsman to go hunting with a gun that will instantly turn a deer into hamburger meat? How responsible is it for a gun company to manufacture and market a weapon that in the wrong hands will cause unimaginable harm? How wise is it for anyone to purchase such an unwieldy, impractical and lethal weapon?

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About the author Robert Paul Reyes: I am a columnist for the Lynchburg Ledger.

Email: [email protected]
 
I guess he missed the whole "dangerous game" part, unless he considers deer as potentially lethal to the hunter. Maybe someone should feel him in about bears and African safaris?
 
That guy can go f*** himself, along with all his other "But I own a guuuuuuuun!" gun banning pansies.
 
It won't be easy prying .50 caliber bazookas from the cold dead hands of phallic-impaired gun fanatics.
The only one who is "phallic-impaired" here is the guy pissing himself out of fright over the thought of somebody owning a powerful hunting revolver. :rolleyes:

Moron.
 
How sporting is it for a sportsman to go hunting with a gun that will instantly turn a deer into hamburger meat?

Wouldn't that be nice. I could save a bunch of money on processing!!!

Based on this guy's logic, anything more "powerful" than a 30/30 shouldn't be used on deer. Perhaps less poweful would be even better. Oh wait, that would include "Ak 47's"!!!
 
I know the ballistics aren't the same, but this guy seems to be arguing from a pure "size" point of view. Guess he doesn't pay attention to the muzzleloading side of the equation does he.

I seriously doubt this is going to be a firearm of choice for criminals. Aside from its weight, it's just a friggin' large gun and not so easily concealed. Not to mention the ammo ain't exactly cheap, even if they do save money with a 5-finger discount on the firearm itself.

Besides, don't reports know the evil "9" is the most powerful handgun round out there? :rolleyes:

I won't even go into answering his questions from the end of his article. :banghead:
 
The recoil on such a powerful weapon must be strong enough to knock down a linebacker flat on his back. I don't want to be in the same zip code with a Bubba hunting with a .50 caliber gun.

Wow! Guess mine must be defective. I've fired mine hundreds of times and not been knocked flat on my back once. And I'm only 5'8" and about 165#'s.
 
Wow! Guess mine must be defective. I've fired mine hundreds of times and not been knocked flat on my back once. And I'm only 5'8" and about 165#'s.
Most antis seem to live in a parallel universe where Newton's third law doesn't apply.
 
I own a gun, but I don't see the need for a .50- caliber Magnum revolver

Using that need word again.

I dislike it when some else decides what I need.
 
Uh, folks? Don't take the rants of Robert Paul Reyes too terribly seriously. Try Googling him and you'll see what I mean. Heh. Nice poetry. Really. :rolleyes:

Robert Paul Reyes is just another who has benefitted in "The Age Of The Common Man," in that he can publish his thoughts for all to read without having to first pass the minimum hurdle of a publicist or often even a copy editor.

In the same essay, Mr. Reyes goes on and on about the unwieldy size and impractibility of the .50 revolver, but then launches into how it will "fall into the wrong hands," and will be a new danger to police by the criminal element.

Robert Paul Reyes tries to show he's got some "street cred" by mentioning that he has a gun, but vividly shows his [lack of] grasp of some pretty basic issues, here. He describes the pistol as being capable of turning a deer instantly into hamburger meat, apparently being too powerful for hunting, yet fails to recognize that most centerfire rifle cartridges that are considered adequate for deer have far more muzzle energy than a .50 S&W pistol round. Robert Paul Reyes of course makes the laughable physics error regarding a pistol that knocks it's shooter down.

Robert Paul Reyes seems to feel that more powerful handgun would be a new threat to police, without ever bothering to check the facts: .44 magnums, 41 magnums, .45's and .357 magnums are far less commonly employed to feloniously assault or kill police officers than .22's, 9mm's, and .38's. Dunno why he shouldn't know this from the D.O.J. website-- Robert Paul Reyes seems web-savy enough. The reason he's so easily found when you Google Robert Paul Reyes' name is that he publishes links to his own writings so as to pop "Robert Paul Reyes" up faster on search engines. (The more links and visits to a site, the higher on the list it goes.) At any rate, the pistol and its ammunition has been out for the better part of a year, now. Why haven't we been slipping on the blood running in the streets??

Robert Paul Reyes has no one's ear, to be honest. He's not an expert. He's not even a true news journalist with an editor holding him to credibility. He's a "collumnist", for the mighty Lynchburg Ledger, a community weekly that relies mostly on internet traffic to keep up its distributorship. (They will mail you a copy weekly for a mere $25/year) I note he doesn't even make the Staff Page at the Ledger. He's just a guy, and not really a very smart one at that.

In the last couple of months, his collums have mentioned Oprah at least three times (twice in the title) that I know of. What's the fixation, there? :confused:

You know, I'm thinking that perhaps I shall attempt to propel this little annotation of our talkshow-host-obsessed Robert Paul Reyes a little higher to the top of his Google hits listing. I'm going to link this to everything I post for a while, by virtue of my .sig line in the various groups I post to. Would you be so kind as to post a link to this post in whatever public web pages you have up? Post it under Robert Paul Reyes , with this post URL: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=1389037#post1389037

Thanks. :) Oh, and enjoy the publicity, Robert Paul Reyes .
 
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Have all his firearms confiscated. He is entirely too stupid and emotionally unstable to own a firearm or a word processor.
 
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Geeze, all the regular anti-gun bigots got done screeching about the .500 S&W sometime mid last year.

What's next on this guy's platter? A screed about hanging chads?
 
Yep, I can see it now. Every low-life crack addict will have one of these revolvers that costs $800, wieghs four pounds unloaded, and is the size of a cement block stuffed into the front of thier seven-sizes-too-big pants.
 
Heh. I think a German company(at least the .PDF I saw was in German) makes a .60 revolver. I'll have to go dig up the link.
 
apparently being too powerful for hunting, yet fails to recognize that most centerfire rifle cartridges that are considered adequate for deer have far more muzzle energy than a .50 S&W pistol round.

Acually the .500 has about the same muzzle enrgy as a 30-06, which is more powerful than most typical hunting cartridges used for whitetail. All the more reason for me to want one for deer hunting. :)

The author of the article sounds like the typical 14 year old numbnut one finds on socialist message boards.
 
Beg to differ.

Corbon's hottest load, the 440 grain hard cast flat-point bullet, is listed at a claimed MV of 1625 fps and ME of 2580 ft. lbs., out of a 10" test barrel. The velocity out of an 8.5" revolver or the new 4" that I've seen will be substantially lower. More commonly shot out of the .50 S&W will be the 400 grain Hawk JSP bullet at a claimed MV of 1675 fps with ME of 2500 ft. lbs. More common that that, though, will be the "moderate" load, which drives a 275 grain Barnes X-Bullet at a claimed muzzle velocity (MV) of 1665 fps with muzzle energy (ME) of 1688 ft. lbs. That's still double the energy of a .44 Magnum! Hot stuff. (http://www.chuckhawks.com/50sw.htm)

But if you just run on down to the Remington Comparative Ballistics Page and check out the muzzle energy on their standard .30-06 ammo, you find that it's all hotter than that:
  • Express 125g PSP-- 3140 fps: 2736 fpE
  • Scirocco Bonded 150g-- 2910 fps: 2820 fpE
  • Premier AccuTip 150g-- 2910 fps: 2820 fpE
  • Remington Express PSP 165g-- 2800 fps: 2872 fpE

As .30-30 and .243 generally get better than 1800 ft/lbs of Energy ME, and the .50 load supposedly specified for deer hunting doesn't make 1700 ft/lbs of energy, I'll go ahead and stand by my statement: most cartridges that will be sold and shot through the .50 S&W will have less muzzle energy than your standard centerfire deer cartridge. Just because someone makes a load that nearly makes a light .30-'06 doesn't mean that that will be the standard for that load. Lord, if we went by the published ME of Corbon's hot .45acp loads, my Kimber 1911 would have almost real-world hot .357 energy. :)
 
...the really scary thing is that he doesn't think of himself as an anti.

Very few of us like to think badly of themselves. I have no doubt supporters of tyranny sincerely believe they're doing the right thing. I believe it's worth remembering that Hitler was elected.
 
You sure about that? You should see these sweet centerfire 10/22 conversion made on .25s necked down. Pretty neat, even if they are expensive to feed.
 
600 Nitro?

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Return with us now to the pages of yesteryear, as yet another hack writer, having cleverly tapped in to the new, emerging market of Bubbas, finds that which he so desperately needs to impress his editor with the volume of hate mail received in reaction to his latest, daring expose'.
My Gosh; that kid’s dynamite, I tells ya!

*yawn*
 
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