I would put that differently. Do not select what yuo are not comfortable carrying.
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WheelGunMan
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uhhh... what's the difference?
To answer a few questions asked
yes I do practice with the guns I carry and I practice getting it into action and Mozambique drills.
I also practice point shooting.
I do carry a pistol most the time except in winter I may carry a snub nose revolver in a jacket pocket. No I don’t practice shooting through a jacket pocket in case anyone is curious. And I do have spare mags and mag holsters. But to be honest I should more religiously carry spares.
I am no where near as fast reloading a revolver from speed strips as I am with a pistol and spare mag.
yes finding out I don’t have enough ammo at the wrong time could be bad, I would have to rely on a knife or my hands and feet. But I ain’t as good as I once was.
Of course, finding out I don’t have bullet proof glass on my car at the wrong time would be bad too, or that I don’t have a horse to ride when an emp hits, etc. as I said above I should more religiously carry my spare mag.
I know those last two were a little bit over the top, but sometimes we roll the dice and take our chances.
Dave
yes I do practice with the guns I carry and I practice getting it into action and Mozambique drills.
I also practice point shooting.
I do carry a pistol most the time except in winter I may carry a snub nose revolver in a jacket pocket. No I don’t practice shooting through a jacket pocket in case anyone is curious. And I do have spare mags and mag holsters. But to be honest I should more religiously carry spares.
I am no where near as fast reloading a revolver from speed strips as I am with a pistol and spare mag.
yes finding out I don’t have enough ammo at the wrong time could be bad, I would have to rely on a knife or my hands and feet. But I ain’t as good as I once was.
Of course, finding out I don’t have bullet proof glass on my car at the wrong time would be bad too, or that I don’t have a horse to ride when an emp hits, etc. as I said above I should more religiously carry my spare mag.
I know those last two were a little bit over the top, but sometimes we roll the dice and take our chances.
Dave
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I could carry a single action NAA .22 or a Baby Browning very comfortably, but I would never choose one for SD.
I would not choose a firearm for SD if I could not carry it comfortably all day
WheelGunMan
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Carrying a firearm for self defense requires not only the physical attributes where one is comfortable with the handling and carrying a specific gun all day, but also the emotional attributes knowing that it is indeed the absolute right tool for the job that it will be called upon to do.
I'm not sure what you mean by "carrying...requires emotional attributes...".
If what you mean is that one to be confident that one should be confident in the effective use of one's chosen weapon, I certainly agree.
That may derive from things physical--weight and balance, trigger, sights, grip, aspects of recoil--but it is more than any of those things.
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My primary IS two back up guns. Pair of 642s, or pair of 18-oz 44 snubs
I’ve got a whole theory called “Civilian Carry” thats not worth getting into here, but
there’s a Youtuber named Revolver Sam who tries to articulate some similar points.
Basically, Civilian Carry is not LEO Carry — diff tools for diff jobs
One example I will offer: when a cop may legally draw, and when a civilian may legally draw, are very different sets of scenarios
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That’s why reloading, and being able to shoot powder puff loads, has been crucial to being a “snub guy”"Shoot it a lot" is the mantra for anything you carry.
Its not that the snubbies are inaccurate, they really arent, if you're up to shooting them. They can be a challenge to shoot, especially if you're unfamiliar with them.
The "Airweights" especially are not all that pleasant to shoot and require a bit more from you, and tend to discourage the regular practice you need to be good with them. They certainly are not beginner guns.
Low capacity is just what it is. What else are they? You basically have 5-6 rounds, maybe a few more, depending on the gun, but the higher the capacity, the larger the guns tend to be too.
I have 5 round J frame Airweights up to 7 shot L frame snubbies. The Airweights are brutal if you're putting in the time with full power ammo. The larger, heavier guns are actually very pleasant, and good shooters too.
But at that point, I really don't see the point, as I can carry things that are similar in size, that carry a good bit more ammo, that are usually easier and quicker to get into action from how Im carrying them, and are easier to shoot as well.
It all comes down to being realistic in your choices, based on some kind of more realistic experience with them, putting the time in getting and staying good with them, and then, "Shoot it a lot", and repeat.
OP, definitely think about reloading, because shooting JHPs by the case out of a 642 is no kind of hobby for nobody
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The important thing is not what you carry,
but that what ever you carry, you tell people,
“I carry XYZ and I certainly don’t feel undergunned”
I'm not at all sure I would recommend practicing with loads significantly lighter than those that one will carry..
We don't do jokes here.
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“However, at some point later, I decided I wanted more than 5-shots in my carry gun. For pocket carry, I have a 7+1 .32 ACP and a 6+1 .380 ACP. My regular carry choice is my 6+1 .380 ACP pocket gun (Remington RM380”
Buddy, you come out as a mousegunner, right here in broad daylight?
And act like you didn’t start the war?
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I carry my S&W 642 AIWB every day when I'm out and about and being smaller in stature it's a very comfortable fit yet at the same time I'm fully aware of its limitations. Having said that, I am getting more comfortable with my proficiency, but it's taken and will continually take constant practice-practice-practice at multiple yardages (every 10 days or so at the gun club) and I'll continue to do so because it's most enjoyable and I want to become a decent shooter. And although I live in a wealthier neighborhood, life's lessons have taught me that bad things can happen anywhere, regardless. I like to think that I'm proactive in my attitude and I prefer being situationally aware.
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Yep...got it on now...a S&W M60 with a 3" bbl. I load with +p .38 special 135 gr JHP's. I too live in a rural, low crime area and find that the J frame Smith fits my hands well (re-stocked with Hogue Monogrips), and is easy to conceal (OWB). I don't generally carry a speed loader as a rule either. For city trips, I generally carry a Sig P365 for its larger capacity.
The Smith M60 is a quality revolver, and accurate out to 15 yds in my use with my loads. Short of winter garments, I don't pocket carry, however. If that's a requirement, I'd say the all SS Smith is too heavy. Best Regards Rod
Here's my daily rig...t-shirt in summer covers the gun and holster...fall winter and spring here in KY makes wardrobe choices easy for CC. Gun in 1st pic is the M60 but with S&W combat grips ca~1990. The 2nd pic is of the 60 with Hogues and my M63 with the combat grips installed. It's a nice practice piece in these austere times.
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I wish we all could practice more with our carry guns, especially for those new to the art.
To the poster with the SP 101, while the gun is a bit chunky the grip that comes stock is my favorite snub grip. Soft enough to absorb some shock yet small enough to conceal well. Mine is a .38 version, and I think it’s a great carry piece.
Stay safe.
To the poster with the SP 101, while the gun is a bit chunky the grip that comes stock is my favorite snub grip. Soft enough to absorb some shock yet small enough to conceal well. Mine is a .38 version, and I think it’s a great carry piece
. Stay safe.
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I carry a Ruger LCR in 9mm a lot. Never felt under gunned with it
2 double taps and a single round. I keep a speed strip for an extra 5. The first 5 are on a moonclip. The other 5 are just chamber drop ins. Fast extraction with those is not possible. A moonclip would be faster but the moonclips bend easily
Situational awareness is more important than any gun you carry. If you spot the threat before they become a problem you are way ahead
2 double taps and a single round. I keep a speed strip for an extra 5. The first 5 are on a moonclip. The other 5 are just chamber drop ins. Fast extraction with those is not possible. A moonclip would be faster but the moonclips bend easily
Situational awareness is more important than any gun you carry. If you spot the threat before they become a problem you are way ahead
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By practicing with it and becoming proficient.
Practicing" and "becoming proficient"
are essential, but they cannot guarantee that bullets fired rapidly at a charging opponent will strike critical things hidden in the opaque, moving 3D body envelope of the attacker.
Success is a matter of chance. One shot may suffice. It may take five. The other day we saw a case where twelve shots were required.
chicharrones
needs more ammo
I sure would like some quick moving targets to practice against. I'm pretty limited in what I can do with live ammo.
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LCR 22WMR, 1873 clone in 45 colt, 1851 in .44, INA Tiger in 32S&W, LCRX in 38+P
I don't always carry a snub nose revolver, but when I do, I like to have choices (no, I don't carry the BP revolver, but have carried the .45 once or twice, when out and about in Govt land)
LCR 22WMR, 1873 clone in 45 colt, 1851 in .44, INA Tiger in 32S&W, LCRX in 38+P
I don't always carry a snub nose revolver, but when I do, I like to have choices (no, I don't carry the BP revolver, but have carried the .45 once or twice, when out and about in Govt land)
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