So, how do you grip a mouse gun?
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I'm in the camp of avoiding "mouse guns". However, some people either choose them deliberately or are stuck with some strange conditions that require them.
All that to say you've received good advice so far. Just remember that these small guns are NOT "ladies guns". They are NOT "beginner guns". Because of small size and all the associated issues, these "mouse guns" are unforgiving of lack of proper technique. Mastery of the fundamentals is imperative if you hope to effectively use a very small handgun.
All that to say you've received good advice so far. Just remember that these small guns are NOT "ladies guns". They are NOT "beginner guns". Because of small size and all the associated issues, these "mouse guns" are unforgiving of lack of proper technique. Mastery of the fundamentals is imperative if you hope to effectively use a very small handgun.
wally
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I like to use the "point shooting" technique of gripping so the middle finger activates the trigger and the index finger "points" at where you want to shoot when using the mouse guns. Its a good technique as long as your index finger is not so long as to be able to get in front of the muzzle.
I'd hardly call the Kahr 45 a "mouse gun" I've no trouble with a normal grip on guns that size or like the S&W Shield -- I'd call these sub-compacts, not mouse guns. IMHO the mouse guns are the size of the P3AT, BG380, Taurus TCP, etc.
I'd hardly call the Kahr 45 a "mouse gun" I've no trouble with a normal grip on guns that size or like the S&W Shield -- I'd call these sub-compacts, not mouse guns. IMHO the mouse guns are the size of the P3AT, BG380, Taurus TCP, etc.
MedWheeler
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Funny how so many assume that, because one owns a so-called "mousegun", that one carries it as his sole means of defense..
That being said, I'm likely to find out soon how to grip one that is dwarfed by my other mouseguns, as I just came home with a Bauer .25 auto..
.. and, no, internet infantry, this is not to be a carry piece.
That being said, I'm likely to find out soon how to grip one that is dwarfed by my other mouseguns, as I just came home with a Bauer .25 auto..
.. and, no, internet infantry, this is not to be a carry piece.
kBob
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wally,
Had a 6'4", lift a basket ball from the top one handed bud that had a brief flirtation with a High Standard .22 Magnum DA "derringer". It was brief because he tried the old pull the trigger with "tall Boy" while "pointer" does his name. Fortunately he neither screamed like a little girl or threw the gun down but rather calmly handed me the gun and went to stick his cut and burned pointer finger pad in the ice cooler.
I have also seen someone get cut by the slide of a small auto doing this, burned by the cylinder gap on a revolver and stop the slide on a small auto.
Some folks do swear by the pointer technique, and some swear at it.
-kBob
Had a 6'4", lift a basket ball from the top one handed bud that had a brief flirtation with a High Standard .22 Magnum DA "derringer". It was brief because he tried the old pull the trigger with "tall Boy" while "pointer" does his name. Fortunately he neither screamed like a little girl or threw the gun down but rather calmly handed me the gun and went to stick his cut and burned pointer finger pad in the ice cooler.
I have also seen someone get cut by the slide of a small auto doing this, burned by the cylinder gap on a revolver and stop the slide on a small auto.
Some folks do swear by the pointer technique, and some swear at it.
-kBob
kBob
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MadWheeler,
Had a girl Friend over West Palm way that carried a Baur in her hip pocket for late night bike rides home from work.
She carried it mag loaded chamber empty and firing pin forward.
One night she needed it and could not for the life of her (and she thought it was) pull the slide back. Fortunately her assailent looking down at her on the ground struggling with the gun while cursing and emitting dire threats as to where he would be shot decided to not wait to see if she ever got it cycled. He left in haste. She never did get the slide back that night.
In my defense she did not get it from me. Initially I showed her how much easier it was to "cock" if the already was cocked over an empty chamber. She demonstrated that this worked for her. I later replaced it for her with a Charter Undercover which while larger she shot better and had no trouble with.
On occasion I carried a Bernadelli VP with the gun cocked over an empty chamber and learned to cock it one handed......odd, I never have been able to grasp ACTUAL juggling.
-kBob
Had a girl Friend over West Palm way that carried a Baur in her hip pocket for late night bike rides home from work.
She carried it mag loaded chamber empty and firing pin forward.
One night she needed it and could not for the life of her (and she thought it was) pull the slide back. Fortunately her assailent looking down at her on the ground struggling with the gun while cursing and emitting dire threats as to where he would be shot decided to not wait to see if she ever got it cycled. He left in haste. She never did get the slide back that night.
In my defense she did not get it from me. Initially I showed her how much easier it was to "cock" if the already was cocked over an empty chamber. She demonstrated that this worked for her. I later replaced it for her with a Charter Undercover which while larger she shot better and had no trouble with.
On occasion I carried a Bernadelli VP with the gun cocked over an empty chamber and learned to cock it one handed......odd, I never have been able to grasp ACTUAL juggling.
-kBob
Tweezers. 
For certain, with my 'mouse', a .25 Colt 1908 vest pocket pointing your finger extends well past the barrel. Plus, it has a grip safety. You gave to grasp it like a 'real' pistol for it to work.
For certain, with my 'mouse', a .25 Colt 1908 vest pocket pointing your finger extends well past the barrel. Plus, it has a grip safety. You gave to grasp it like a 'real' pistol for it to work.
MedWheeler
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Kbob, I remember you posting that story once before, but I had no idea it took place in my old stomping grounds. I also, for some reason, was picturing it as a Raven she had, since the make wasn't mentioned in that post.
Incidentally, I worked as a cop in Palm Beach County back in the eighties, and bought an Uncercover 38 the day I was sworn in. Fine weapon indeed, and I still have it..
Incidentally, I worked as a cop in Palm Beach County back in the eighties, and bought an Uncercover 38 the day I was sworn in. Fine weapon indeed, and I still have it..
kBob
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Med Wheel,
Yep Sally lived down there and I lived in Tallahassee at the time, driving to dates was a job...... You would think that in a college that still had then a almost 2 girl to 1 boy ration that I could have had a relationship with less driving.
The pistol was one of the little stainless Baur .25 autos
-kBob
Yep Sally lived down there and I lived in Tallahassee at the time, driving to dates was a job...... You would think that in a college that still had then a almost 2 girl to 1 boy ration that I could have had a relationship with less driving.
The pistol was one of the little stainless Baur .25 autos
-kBob
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With my itty bitty mouse paw?
Seriously...I can grip an LCP (had two) or my current Kahr CW380 with two fingers just fine. The CW380 continues to amaze me with the groups it shoots at 15-21 feet. Not always one ragged hole, but often enough, and otherwise, close enough.
The CW380 is not as ammo-insensitive as my two LCPs were, but is easier to shoot and more accurate (the newer LCPs with better sights may have rectified this, and I plan on trying one.)
I still lack trust in the .380 cartridge, and as a result carry my PM9 instead. But the CW380/LCP are noticably smaller/lighter, and the older I get, the more attractive that option becomes.
Seriously...I can grip an LCP (had two) or my current Kahr CW380 with two fingers just fine. The CW380 continues to amaze me with the groups it shoots at 15-21 feet. Not always one ragged hole, but often enough, and otherwise, close enough.
The CW380 is not as ammo-insensitive as my two LCPs were, but is easier to shoot and more accurate (the newer LCPs with better sights may have rectified this, and I plan on trying one.)
I still lack trust in the .380 cartridge, and as a result carry my PM9 instead. But the CW380/LCP are noticably smaller/lighter, and the older I get, the more attractive that option becomes.
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cc-hangfire
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With my hand size I only get a one fingered grip on my pocket gun, Kel Tec P3AT. I added very aggressive stippling on the front strap & back strap. With that texture and a "squeeze the snot out of it" grip, it doesn't shift in my hand but it's not a fun gun for the range.
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if you have to use two hands to get a gun into action, it is not really a self defense piece; maybe an offensive piece, but not defensive.
think of a worst case scenario, then think about what gun you want that you can conceal in comfort and use reliably.
think of a worst case scenario, then think about what gun you want that you can conceal in comfort and use reliably.
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