Joe Gunns
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...and the 375 H&H. I've read the puff-pieces, I wanna know how real people think they compare. I gets no answers. Post sinks like a stone. (Maybe the replies were on the quantam board in the next universe.) So I decides to get the Ruger and an H&H and find out for myself.
Decided to start with the Ruger, since it is the new wunderkind. Chose the African over the Alaskan for the extra few barrel-inches and the wood stock. Looked nice outta the box. At 7 3/4 pounds it feels pretty light. Fits me well. Plunk down $100 plus tax for 40 rounds of Hornady 300 grain cigars. Hike out to the club. Post targets at 50 and 100 yards.
Am thinking the thing is gonna kick, but 12 gauge and those hotter end 45-70's dont bother me, but they are heavier than the Ruger, so I'll just man-up on my grip, take the first shot offhand to get the feel before sitting at the bench. I snug 'er in tight, lean into it. POW Nails dig into the checkering on the fore-end. Left foot swings back to catch balance. Pain in shoulder. Feel like one of those clowns in that video on the internet shooting the elephant gun. Silly grin on my face. Surprized to find my hat is still firmly on my head. Put gun on bench, scope out 50 yard target. No hole.
Based on the dull ache starting in my shoulder I decide I need to get acclimated before I shoot this thing from the bench. Pick up gun. Really pay attention to my form, snug up tighter, lean into it more. POW Keep grip on fore-end. Keep balance. Pain in shoulder now a bit worse. Put down gun. Scope target. No hole. To cut to the chase, I let off a total of six rounds off-hand, with no holes appearing in the target. Quit 'cause I realize that all I'm doin is reinforcing a helluva flinch. Tell a just-arriving young fella with some ak-looking rifle that he can use my targets since they're virgin.
Go over to the pistol range. Flinch is so bad the .22 rounds are hitting the bottom of the target. Keep at it til the flinch is gone, even on the .45 "bear" loads. Go home, clean guns. Check out bruise on shoulder. Console self with observation that at this rate I will get a lot of range sessions outta that $100 worth of ammo. Go online, find a recoil calculator. Put in the numbers using suggested handload data from a HANDLOADER magazine article. Calculator sez recoil is 66 pounds -Holy Cow! (the articles in the gun mags claimed recoil in the 40-50 lb range ). Read up on managing recoil. Think about getting a Lead Sled and/or a different recoil pad. Dont get around to it. Takes about a week before I am not havin probs with occasional flinching whilst shooting handguns. Takes week and a half before shoulder no longer has any discernable soreness when proded.
Go to range yesterday with buddy. Shoot my '06. Shoot my 45-70. Put folded towel over right shoulder. Shoot the 375 Ruger, offhand. Shoulder hurts anyway. First hole just below black at 50 yards. Second hole thumb-width almost directly below first hole. Feelin' saucy now! Third hole two handspans left in a northwesterly direction. Shoulder aching again.
Buddy wants to shoot it. I give him the towel and some instruction on his stance and grip. He puts a hole between my flyer and my two-shot group. Looks a bit goggled-eyed. Declares himself satisfied. Despite positive encouragement, expresses guilt over using up more of my $2.50-a-pop ammo.
I think about taking three more shots from a rest, but... Shoulder aching (no bruise showed up later). Decide that the flyer was indicative of the flinch coming back and its time to call it a day. Decide to look into replacing the buttpad cause I don't want an achy shoulder for a few days after each session. Also will be looking around for a LeadSled type of gimmick to use from the bench so I get the sights set to my eye. (I also gotta get back into rolling my own!) But basically, I was encouraged that the recoil bothered me less and that my first two shots gave me an acceptable little group.
So, Other than felt-recoil being significanly more than I expected, I am happy with the rifle. Stock comes up fast to cheek-weld. Trigger is smooth, break is clean, action was stiff, but daily sessions of working it have smoothed it out quite a bit. Like all the rugers I have bought over the last few years, sights seem pretty close right outta the box. I figger a month or so with this gun and it'll be time to get an H&H so I can finish answering my own question.
James
Decided to start with the Ruger, since it is the new wunderkind. Chose the African over the Alaskan for the extra few barrel-inches and the wood stock. Looked nice outta the box. At 7 3/4 pounds it feels pretty light. Fits me well. Plunk down $100 plus tax for 40 rounds of Hornady 300 grain cigars. Hike out to the club. Post targets at 50 and 100 yards.
Am thinking the thing is gonna kick, but 12 gauge and those hotter end 45-70's dont bother me, but they are heavier than the Ruger, so I'll just man-up on my grip, take the first shot offhand to get the feel before sitting at the bench. I snug 'er in tight, lean into it. POW Nails dig into the checkering on the fore-end. Left foot swings back to catch balance. Pain in shoulder. Feel like one of those clowns in that video on the internet shooting the elephant gun. Silly grin on my face. Surprized to find my hat is still firmly on my head. Put gun on bench, scope out 50 yard target. No hole.
Based on the dull ache starting in my shoulder I decide I need to get acclimated before I shoot this thing from the bench. Pick up gun. Really pay attention to my form, snug up tighter, lean into it more. POW Keep grip on fore-end. Keep balance. Pain in shoulder now a bit worse. Put down gun. Scope target. No hole. To cut to the chase, I let off a total of six rounds off-hand, with no holes appearing in the target. Quit 'cause I realize that all I'm doin is reinforcing a helluva flinch. Tell a just-arriving young fella with some ak-looking rifle that he can use my targets since they're virgin.
Go over to the pistol range. Flinch is so bad the .22 rounds are hitting the bottom of the target. Keep at it til the flinch is gone, even on the .45 "bear" loads. Go home, clean guns. Check out bruise on shoulder. Console self with observation that at this rate I will get a lot of range sessions outta that $100 worth of ammo. Go online, find a recoil calculator. Put in the numbers using suggested handload data from a HANDLOADER magazine article. Calculator sez recoil is 66 pounds -Holy Cow! (the articles in the gun mags claimed recoil in the 40-50 lb range ). Read up on managing recoil. Think about getting a Lead Sled and/or a different recoil pad. Dont get around to it. Takes about a week before I am not havin probs with occasional flinching whilst shooting handguns. Takes week and a half before shoulder no longer has any discernable soreness when proded.
Go to range yesterday with buddy. Shoot my '06. Shoot my 45-70. Put folded towel over right shoulder. Shoot the 375 Ruger, offhand. Shoulder hurts anyway. First hole just below black at 50 yards. Second hole thumb-width almost directly below first hole. Feelin' saucy now! Third hole two handspans left in a northwesterly direction. Shoulder aching again.
Buddy wants to shoot it. I give him the towel and some instruction on his stance and grip. He puts a hole between my flyer and my two-shot group. Looks a bit goggled-eyed. Declares himself satisfied. Despite positive encouragement, expresses guilt over using up more of my $2.50-a-pop ammo.
I think about taking three more shots from a rest, but... Shoulder aching (no bruise showed up later). Decide that the flyer was indicative of the flinch coming back and its time to call it a day. Decide to look into replacing the buttpad cause I don't want an achy shoulder for a few days after each session. Also will be looking around for a LeadSled type of gimmick to use from the bench so I get the sights set to my eye. (I also gotta get back into rolling my own!) But basically, I was encouraged that the recoil bothered me less and that my first two shots gave me an acceptable little group.
So, Other than felt-recoil being significanly more than I expected, I am happy with the rifle. Stock comes up fast to cheek-weld. Trigger is smooth, break is clean, action was stiff, but daily sessions of working it have smoothed it out quite a bit. Like all the rugers I have bought over the last few years, sights seem pretty close right outta the box. I figger a month or so with this gun and it'll be time to get an H&H so I can finish answering my own question.
James