Someone I knew outed my gun at a coffee house.

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I'm stunned. Why do you people tell people who have no reason to know, that you carry a concealed weapon?

Why don't you just get a T-shirt that says " I'm armed"?

If you don't want people to know you carry a gun...


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DON'T TELL PEOPLE YOU CARRY A GUN !!!!!!!! ( yes I'm yelling)
 
Please, visit any coffee shop you like, if that's what you want to do. I think your response was quite appropriate. Personally I would have responded in a very similar way. I would try to be pleasant if he did not mean harm and was just ignorant.
 
yea, you did ok, under the circumstances. and yes, give him he11 next time you see him. what an idiot! he could have gotten you into a terrible position, other than kicked out of the coffee shop. let him know, thats a good way to start a gunfight. if somebody, at that instant was planning on robbing the place, he just let the cat out of the bag, and the bad guy would have 2 choices. either leave without doing his deed, or take you out. not a good place to be. and since you had been exposed, the b.g. would know right where to shoot first. and yes, i like the are you still wearing womens underware saying also! or, are you still gay! or are you still wanted by the fbi!
 
I think your response was fine. If it were me, and I tend to be a little more confrontational, I would have said, "Yes I am carrying it. Why do you want to know? Are you trying to make trouble?" Of course everyone knows he is trying to make trouble, but now you have put the focus on him. And so what if people know you carry? I OC most of the time anyway, so there is no doubt. :evil:
 
I agree stay the he55 out of there.

I recall a bar I stopped at a few times in 68. One eve there was a hippy looking guy slobbering about the 'war'.

I told the tender one of us had to leave and I did.
 
Why I Choose Concealed Carry

QUOTE: "And so what if people know you carry?"

I don't tell people I carry to avoid situations similar to the one the OP was complaining about.

The OP made it clear that he was disconcerted by the incident. But he precipitated it by telling someone who wasn't his friend that he carries.

If you don't want people walking up to you in public & asking you if you're still packing, don't tell 'em.

If you do tell 'em don't freak out when they ask you about it in public
 
Other replies you could use:

- Have you quit beating your wife yet? (said louder than his comment)
- Have you finished your drug rehab yet?
- Does your wife still laugh hysterically when you take your pants off?
- Did you REALLY vote Republican last time? (you said this was a rather liberal establishment)
- What was that comment from Limbaugh you like so much?

or, to be really nasty -
Gee! Are you really going to contest your pedophile conviction?

:evil: Sorry, the devil made me do it. :evil:
 
You handled it well, although I do like the "Are you still beating your wife?" response.

Sucks that the only coffee house in your area is all left wing. I know that a good place to go and enjoy a non-alcoholic drink where people don't fill the house up with cigarette smoke is hard to find. I spend way too much money at Starbucks because there isn't a decent coffee house in town.

One of these days I may just bite the bullet and get the 25-50k together and open one here in Melbourne. The only one we have is owned by a guy who staffs it with minimum wage college kids who could care less about anything but their boyfriends and the hair dresser appointments. The funny thing is the place makes money, so I know people are looking for a place to congregate.

Maybe you could look into something like that where you live, and make it a friendly environment for those people whose political views are more inline with your own.
 
Now you are even more a mark than you were already...

How many illegal eyes and ears witnessed this exchange?

This does not include other illegal eyes and ears this person has already verbally shared with others in private, or in a public setting , and maybe even pointed you out and the vehicle you drive, and where you live and ...

This is how folks arrive home to find BGs waiting for them to return home and catch them in the carport, or driveway just before they enter the enclosed garage.

Once in the garage, they have you, or wife,and/or kids to open the access to main house, then cabinet or safe to get more guns.

Hopefully that is all they are after, a quick robbery getting guns.

If not, then one gets beaten and watches and listens to wife and teenage daughter being raped.

Illegal eyes and ears learn from law abiding and Pro Gun, and CCW folks too.
Folks advertise and do not keep mouths shut!

In a coffee house, that HS gal in her HS uniform might have heard, and has a boyfriend a bit drifty.
Maybe the guy in her class sitting with her, has buds that are drifty and she does not know this.

This has happened, as I have been involved as to why it happened from more than one aspect.
It still does happen.

Just me, still I would really make some changes, and take prudent steps about me, and mine, and valuables period.

Guns, watches, furs, jewelry, coin collections, antiques, silverware...
Do not advertise, keep mouth shut.
 
My answer "Yes I am. I also haven't been assaulted or robbed. Have you got a permit yet?"

His reply "no and I don't intend to."

Mine "Well that's too bad. Our police can't be everywhere at once, I hope you never need them."

I don't see why its such a HUGE deal to keep your weapon hidden. Why live life hiding what is completely legal? Why let the others in the store think it's something not to talk about in public?

One could have turned the comment into a public awareness statement at the cost of being asked to leave. OTOH, the store owner sounds like he realizes the use of self defense and some of the people there may have never thought of concealed carry...
 
I'm not sure I'd blame the other party... :what:

When you carry a concealed weapon, the responsibility to keep it hidden lies fully on you. If someone sees it they didn't mess up, you did. Rather then trying to think up smart replies it would be better to turn your attention to a combination of handgun, holster, and covering garments that will insure this unfortunate incident doesn't happen again. Under some circumstances you might have had some real problems.

The Old Fuff has yet to have this sort of thing happen, but if it should it won't be at a Starbucks... :neener:
 
i think you handled it fine. Just leave it as that. However if he ever comes in your presence again and wants to be a little school girl. Then school him like the way he needs to be.
 
I understand the problem and your concern, and cannot say I would feel differently in many places.

At the same time by being outed as a long term patron that has always been a respectful individual without problems you did more to help gun rights.

Gun rights are assaulted so often because many scared leftists don't realize they are around them all the time. When they think of someone carrying it seems foriegn, like a bad and unnecessary CHANGE. When in fact it is not a change at all, something that has been being done by many honest people around them for a long time.

If you hide your right, and the face of gun ownership is impersonal organizations we support or hunters and not everyday individuals, it remains something that seems foriegn to many, and easier to attack as a result.
Criminal actions are not hidden, nor the guns they use in them. However the much larger presence of honest citizens with firearms is hidden. The result is it seems like guns are only involved in bad things most of the time to those that use the media to determine thier perspective.
If several people used to sitting next to you for years just realized you have had a gun much of that time, they may have in fact been impacted in a positive way.
 
are you still carrying your gun"
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Whip your head around in an exaggerated threat scan. Shrug and say "well, since I don't see anything that needs to be shot, I guess it doesn't really matter, now does it?"

:neener:
 
Ayoob mentioned a stock answer for that. " thats why I live in /shop in/hangout in such a wonderful part of town-so I don't have to carry a gun everywhere"
 
Maybe he was being a jerk. Maybe he is intrigued by the idea of firearms carry and just wants to talk about it.

I was outed today at the coffee shot, easy to do since I carry openly. Nobody fainted and nobody was waiting for me when I got home. Sheesh. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
"Hi, (My name) are you still carrying your gun"

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"Are you still registered as a sex offender?"

"Yes, and my badge, too." (You're not claiming to be a cop, and a lot of workplaces use security badges - you can't control what someone who overhears thinks (flame away, I'm ready))

"Haven't recovered from the lobotomy yet, I see."

"I see you made bail for that hit-and-run."

"Wow, are the gay clubs closed already?"

"Didn't you rob this place the last time you were here?"
 
I'm stunned. Why do you people tell people who have no reason to know, that you carry a concealed weapon?

Why don't you just get a T-shirt that says " I'm armed"?

If you don't want people to know you carry a gun...


Wait for it...

DON'T TELL PEOPLE YOU CARRY A GUN !!!!!!!! ( yes I'm yelling)
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Perhaps anger management classes are in order. Or Ritalin.

I don't care who knows I'm carrying.

Hey THR, I carry a gun. (no, I'm not yelling).

I just told 30,000 people. Now they know. I don't care if 20 customers in a coffee shop know either. Yeah, sure, one of them might be a bad guy. And one of them might be a bad guy that's also a ninja. And he might target the guy with the gun. Gee, I know I sure would. That's why so many cops are mugged on a daily basis.

Again. My response would be "of course I am."
 
Okaaaay I've Said This Twice...

Maybe you'll get it the third time
I don't tell people I carry because I enjoy my privacy. If I'm out W/ my wife, I want talk to my wife. I don't want someone who isn't my friend questioning me about weather or not I'm packing.

Now here's the part I've said twice

The OP stated he wasn't particularly pleased W/ the encounter. I could care less that you don't care who knows you're heeled, he said he didn't like it.
Now let me say it again if you go around telling people you have a gun don't bitch when they ask you about in public. ( yeah I know you don't care but you're not the one who opened the thread)
 
Must be a Michigan response. Whenever I open carry in CO or WY, the only protests I get are from the eastern states tourists.

I've been pulled over by County Sheriffs who've scoffed my choice of sidearm. I've since moved from a .357 SIG P226 to a USP Compact .45 ACP Stainless and the derisive comments have ceased.

You can limit the amount of printing your sidearm will display, but a seasoned LEO has a sixth sense of what you're carrying.
 
I wonder if you could file harrasment charges against this idiot? To me yelling out loud in a public place is like saying, "Fire!" in a crowded theater?

I think that he was disturbing the peace and invading your privacy. I do not know what I would have done, but for that jerk's sake I hope he does not make that a habbit?:cool:
 
I tend to remove the chance of problems like this by carrying myself well, looking like a (semi! :D) respectable member of society, and open carrying. I've only gotten a few comments, and they've all been along the lines of "are you a cop?"

I think of it like this - to me, guns are normal. I really don't mind who knows and who doesn't. I suppose you don't feel the same way, but then again, you're in Michigan while here in Colorado people tend to view guns as normal. :)
 
You did well to disarm him quietly. About coming home and finding the BGs. I exit my vehicles with gun in hand at night and early morn. I always carry-everywhere. Will be glad when SC passes their "open carry" legislation they are pondering over right now. NC is already, wc
 
"Why do you want to know? Are you looking to do the world a favor and remove your sorry existence?"
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I was going to give the line 'are you still beating your wife?' but someone got to it first.

what about "why are you asking? were you planning on robbing this place?"

or "Do I/we need to get a restraining order against you?" this will immediately make anyone who overhears this think that he is some sort of nutzo, and if you are carrying, you probably have a good reason. (note: not that people should only carry if they have a direct specific threat against them, but it is a good starting place to use against antis...should a person being stalked be allowed to get a CCW?_
 
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