Something interesting with the Beretta 92.

[bg226]

I noticed something interesting on the Beretta website:

Open Slide Design. Open top slide virtually eliminates jamming or stovepiping. Allows the user to load the chamber one cartridge at a time should the magazine be lost or damaged.

I thought manually putting rounds in the chamber can damage the extractor and possibly other parts?

Interestin'

 

[Devonai]

I heard that doing so with S&W autos may damage the extractor, but never with any other brand.

FWIW, my normal loading practice for my 92FS involves dropping a round in the chamber, closing the slide, and inserting a fully-loaded magazine. After nine years of this habit, the extractor still works.

 

[Ohen Cepel]

Some pistols can be damaged by dropping one in the chamber, but not all. Just depends on the design. I think Glocks can get messed up that way IIRC.

As a rule, I don't do it. Just good practice since I can't remember which ones it's a no-no for.

 

[stinx]

The Berettas extractor is designed so that the chamber can be loaded manually.

 

[1911Tuner]

re:

It would be a poor design that didn't allow for single-loading of the chamber in the event of a lost magazine. Even the 1911 was designed with that in mind, and it'll tolerate it pretty well for the short time that it's necessary...but it still isn't conducive to long, happy extractor life. It's an emergency measure only.

 

[gudel]

I thought manually putting rounds in the chamber can damage the extractor and possibly other parts?

You confuse 92FS with the jamomatic 1911.

 

[Navy87Guy]

It also allows you to use someone else's magazine to load your gun. Just load one round at a time by thumbing it from the magazine into the chamber. Handy if you run dry in a firefight and can get your hand on another style of mag!

Jim

 

[bg226]

1911Tuner,

From what has been gathered, It appears the Beretta 92 will not get damaged by manually inserting rounds in the chamber.

I think this is a very nice feature for a number of reasons.

 

[Black Knight]

Remember the 92 was designed for military use. That feature was designed so that a soldier could manually load a round if he found a supply of ammo and did not have a magazine. The other possibility was that the soldier could load if he found magazines from a different make pistol. The Beretta extractor was designed with this in mind and is beefed up.

 

[xiphur]

I have a beretta and i only load from the breach when I practice dry firing with used cases. never had and extractor problems while firing live rounds and i have about 1400 rounds though it. It's my very first handgun and I love it!! I still need to figure out how to get this copper crap out out of my barrel.

 

[xiphur]

I have a beretta and i only load from the breach when I practice dyr firing with used cases. never had and extractor problems while firing live rounds and i have about 1400 rounds though it. It's my very first handgun and I love it!! I still need to figure out how to get this copper crap out out of my barrel.

 

[RustyShackelford]

one round loading for pistols...

I can't really think of what event or incident you could be in where you'd be shooting 1 round at a time.

I could see losing a mag and needing to fire the pistol in a critical incident.

Mostly I'd say a mag safety like a S&W or High Power model would help if you got in a struggle for your weapon and hit the magazine release. I've read of sworn LEOs who used Smith and Wesson pistols and had this happen on duty.

You may damage the parts firing one rd at a time, but that would be in an extreme case.

RS

 

[Devonai]

I can't really think of what event or incident you could be in where you'd be shooting 1 round at a time.

I've had a 1911 magazine base give out on me during firing. Thankfully I was at the range and it was only humorous (very much so, actually), but if that happened in a combat situation, and it was your last magazine, you might very well find yourself fishing on the ground for ammo and loading them individually.

I've heard stories in the Army about Beretta magazine bases giving out because lazy soldiers never cleaned them and they rusted out. If that happens in combat I suppose you get what you deserve.

 

[KC&97TA]

Take a look at how the extractor on a 92 is build into the gun, then take a look at an internal 1911 extractor, you'll see that the 92 has alot of room to move over the caseing were as the 1911 doesn't have that much clearance.

Different gun, different design. Both for combat. This is what Kimber was trying to build into thier guns with the External Extractor, which didn't work out so well. I've heard the S&W 1911 external extractor isn't prone to FTE like the Kimber was.