something to think about gun safes

[m4gnesium]

My cheap safe is hidden in the house. In the nightstand I keep a old ratty Taurus 85 and 100.00 in cash. Give them a quick suprise and they will be off to the crack dealer.


Kevin

p.s. The Taurus is loaded with a 'special' home made load.

I like it, you could call em "Karma Rounds"

 

[CGofMP]

Sadly I bet Karma Rounds could get your butt sued too.....

 

[perpster]

Just because your gun safe looks like a bank vault doesn't mean it is one. The steel used on most gun safes is the same thickness as commercial countertops and burial urns.

RSC rated safes kept a UL technician out for a total of 5 minutes using a SMALL HAMMER AND A SCREWDRIVER! A torch would be overkill.

I have heard that Browning safes (Medallion and above) are actually better than anything else out there. Is this true?

 

[sendtoscott]

Sadly I bet Karma Rounds could get your butt sued too.....

Assuming they fired it at some point after leaving your house, they'd have to go thur the extra step of proving you were the one who loaded it.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

Just because your gun safe looks like a bank vault doesn't mean it is one. The steel used on most gun safes is the same thickness as commercial countertops and burial urns.

RSC rated safes kept a UL technician out for a total of 5 minutes using a SMALL HAMMER AND A SCREWDRIVER! A torch would be overkill.

I have heard that Browning safes (Medallion and above) are actually better than anything else out there. Is this true?

The smart gun owners who want burglar protection will but a burglar safe and have gun racks put inside. Sometimes they are called jewelry safes or by some other precious cargo name. Basically, they are the safes made to withstand a more physical assault.

Most gun safes are nothing more than light security lock boxes with some serving as pretty good fire [protection] boxes.

 

[Hot brass]

The steel used on most gun safes is the same thickness as commercial countertops and burial urns.

RSC rated safes kept a UL technician out for a total of 5 minutes using a SMALL HAMMER AND A SCREWDRIVER! A torch would be overkill.

I have heard that Browning safes (Medallion and above) are actually better than anything else out there. Is this true?

You guys scare the hell out of me. I have a Visalia Safe (Visalia,California) it is made of 1/4 or 5/16 inch thick steel from top to bottom. I "HAD" a Browning safe. It was not built like the Visalia Safe. I was thinking of selling the VS, and buying a Liberty because I want a larger safe. After reading this thread, NO WAY!!!! I will buy a second Visalia Safe.

Thanks guys.

 

[mcosman]

Two safes

I feel the best approach is to have two safes. One full of high points rendered inoperable. and another concealed safe with the valuables. Satisfy them with a quick smash and grab option.

 

[a1abdj]

For the most part, all of your big name manufacturers offer similar levels of security. When you get to your high dollar Fort Knox, Liberty, Browning, etc... there is some thicker steel, but still not enough to make it a safe.

AMSEC makes a new burglary fire gun safe that I really like for what it is. It has a 1/2" plate in the door, and a shelled body (10 ga. outside, 16 ga. inside) filled with "concrete". It is priced similar to the other big name safes that aren't nearly as secure. AMSEC also builds a 3,400 pound UL TL-30 burglar rated gun safe.

Graffunder also makes very nice safes, and although their pricing is higher, you definately get what you pay for. Graffunder offers safes starting at 1/4" plate and going up to 1 1/2" plate with UL burglar ratings.

These are two of the AMSEC burglar rated gun safes with a Fort Knox tucked in between. The Fort Knox stores the less valuable items, but is protected on its sides by the other safes, and it's back by a wall. These 3 safes together weigh over 8,700 pounds and store a gun collection.

I feel the best approach is to have two safes.

I always advise customers to use multiple smaller safes instead of a larger single safe if they need the space. Never put all of your eggs into one basket.

 

[gulogulo1970]

I guess my Homak doesn't cut the mustard either.