South Carolina Now Permitless Carry State

Gary Slider

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South Carolina – The Governor has signed Bill 3594 making South Carolina the 29th state to pass Permitless Carry. It lowers the age to apply for a permit and to carry under permitless carry to 18. Though Louisiana Governor signed his bill first (28th state) the South Carolina Bill went into effect the moment the Governor signed it while Louisiana will not go into effect until July 4. https://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess125_2023-2024/prever/3594_20240305.htm
 
I read through the bill last night. I am a NJ resident and have a NJ permit to carry, along with a FL permit. Planning a trip soon and will be spending a night in SC. Does this mean I can carry in SC? Thanks in advance for any info.
 
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I read through the bill last night. I am a NJ resident and have a NJ permit to carry, along with a FL permit. Planning a trip soon and will be spending a night in SC. Does this mean I can carry in SC? Thanks in advance for any info.
IANAL, but, yes, that is the intent of this law: that a person not prohibited from possessing a firearm under State of Federal law may transport or carry about their person openly or concealed without a permit.

ETA: applies to any person age 18 or over
 
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Be careful and read the law.

Permitless carry does not necessarily mean Constitutional carry. Here in Tennessee we have permitless carry. There is a law on the books called, "intent to go armed" that has not been removed. Permitless carry is an exception to that law. There are places like greenways that without a state carry permit, you can not go with our permitless carry law
 
I read through the bill last night. I am a NJ resident and have a NJ permit to carry, along with a FL permit. Planning a trip soon and will be spending a night in SC. Does this mean I can carry in SC? Thanks in advance for any info.

I'm a SC resident and I'm still carefully working my way through this to be sure I understand all the nuances of these changes.

As for your NJ permit...SC does not have reciprocity with NJ permit holders. This is a "no uncertain terms" with respect to the verbiage of SC law, before and after the passing of this particular bill.

And I don't think the new law is a blank check for ALL out of state people to carry. The laws in SC with respect to carry are written for SC residents and those states with whom SC accepts reciprocity with, as the accepted states generally have laws which meet SC requirements. So I'm not comfortable at all with interpreting SC's new constitutional/permitless carry as applicable to people from ALL other states.

Some people might believe the following amendment does this:

The availability of a permit to carry a concealable weapon under this section must not be construed to prohibit the permitless transport or carrying of a firearm in a vehicle or on or about one's person, whether openly or concealed, loaded or unloaded, in a manner not prohibited by law.



This is added to 23-31-215(O). 23-31-215 is titled "Issuance of Permits" and paragraph (O) as amended in its entirety now reads:

(O)(1) A permit issued pursuant to this article is not required for a person:

(a) carrying a self-defense device generally considered to be nonlethal including the substance commonly referred to as "pepper gas"; or

(b) carrying a concealable weapon in a manner not prohibited by law.

(2) The availability of a permit to carry a concealable weapon under this section must not be construed to prohibit the permitless transport or carrying of a firearm in a vehicle or on or about one's person, whether openly or concealed, loaded or unloaded, in a manner not prohibited by law.



Now, I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that the context here is to say that if one HAS a permit, it's no longer REQUIRED that this person actually have that permit on them while they're carrying. Prior to the change we're talking about, if you carried a concealed firearm you were REQUIRED to have your CWP on your person and to present it to law enforcement under to specific conditions (which no longer applies, as this change remove the "must inform" requirement). Which means subparagraph (O)(2) above does not lend permitless carry to people from any state.
 
Thank you for the replies. In my limited understanding, most of what I read seems to be in reference to SC residents or residents from other states that have reciprocity with SC. I am not covered by my FL permit because I am not a resident, nor am I covered by my NJ permit because there's no reciprocity. It also seems to me that after a decade long fight there has not been much gained.
 
Thank you for the replies. In my limited understanding, most of what I read seems to be in reference to SC residents or residents from other states that have reciprocity with SC. I am not covered by my FL permit because I am not a resident, nor am I covered by my NJ permit because there's no reciprocity. It also seems to me that after a decade long fight there has not been much gained.

Actually, it's a decades (plural) long fight and we've made incredible strides since the height of the gun control era, which I'd say peaked in the 70s following the '68 GCA.

Hang in there and do your part however you can!
 
I followed this bill closely and listened, live, to much of the Senate debate. At no time was there any mention of Resident/Non-Resident. All references are to "a person" without qualification.

Have you read the parent statutes which this law amends?

For example, SC 23-31-210 (definitions) defines what a "resident" is for the purpose of Title 23. 23-31-215 (Issuance of permits) uses the word "residents" in it. Everything about this involves "residents" of SC, not residents of any other state.

Reciprocity is another matter. SC does not recognize every other state with respect to reciprocity. SLED is tasked with keeping this up to date.

Currently, we're in a kind of "flux" where all the usual sites which show the actual statutes have yet to be updated. We have to read the new statute and then go to the parent statute to see how and where it fits in.
 
This is the bill I struggled through the other night. I understand that we should be knowledgeable of our laws, but they sure don't make it easy for the common layman who doesn't possess a law degree. As a matter of fact lawyers themselves at times disagree with meaning.
 
This is the bill I struggled through the other night. I understand that we should be knowledgeable of our laws, but they sure don't make it easy for the common layman who doesn't possess a law degree. As a matter of fact lawyers themselves at times disagree with meaning.

Indeed. And this is part and parcel of The High Road creed, to ask such questions and figure out how to enlighten ourselves.

As I said above, it's slightly complicated in that the verbiage of the statutes from the state online source is not yet updated with this. So we have to bounce back and forth between the amendments in H3594 to the applicable statutes to see where and how they fit it.

I've said this before: I'm not a lawyer. However, I do understand enough in general to know that to get a better idea of what the laws MEAN requires reading them in the full context of the statutes in which they are actually written. Speaking as an engineer, it's kinda like technical manuals and operating procedures for a lot of equipment I work on: what these say to do in any given procedure is predicated on understanding the context in which the procedure is written because the context explains such things as prerequisites, plant conditions, etc. which are required to perform the procedures.

Just going by what people SAY without going to the source documents themselves, especially with respect to both the law and engineering, is a recipe for disaster. How often, for example, do we read/hear of news reports that are way off in left field in their reports on such matters?

A big question here is the applicability of the permitless carry part. I'm a SC resident and have been carrying as far back as when I was still a resident of my birth state, Indiana, a few decades ago. Going through these changes and gaining clarity on the subject is critical to making sure I don't screw up and maybe find myself in a legal bind some day over something I stupidly did not know or understand.

Which is why I may ask (like I did above with @Insignificant bill) where specific verbiage may be found to support this or that statement. It's important to know what the source actually says and in what context it's saying it.
 
Nothing in it prohibits citizens from other states that are legal from permitless carry. Also every article makes the Statement Adults that can legally possess a firearm. It doesn't say SC Adults.
 
Nothing in it prohibits citizens from other states that are legal from permitless carry. Also every article makes the Statement Adults that can legally possess a firearm. It doesn't say SC Adults.

What portion of this bill do you derive this determination from?

This is really important.

Is it this part:

(O)(1) A permit issued pursuant to this article is not required for a person:

(a) carrying a self-defense device generally considered to be nonlethal including the substance commonly referred to as "pepper gas"; or

(b) carrying a concealable weapon in a manner not prohibited by law.

(2) The availability of a permit to carry a concealable weapon under this section must not be construed to prohibit the permitless transport or carrying of a firearm in a vehicle or on or about one's person, whether openly or concealed, loaded or unloaded, in a manner not prohibited by law.



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Also, nowhere in the wording of the statute that was signed into law does it use "adult" or "adults". So I don't understand where that comes from.
 
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Isn't there a federal provision that allows the "transport" of an unloaded and cased firearm almost any place without a permit?
Non-residents might not be allowed to carry a loaded firearm on their person in SC but I believe they can still "transport" a firearm.
 
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