Sportsman's Guide Ban

[smince]

Not taking up for SG(even though I've never had any problems with them), but a casual look through Brigade Quartermasters, CTD, and just about every major dealer in SGNews shows they all have a list of restricted and forbidden items that cannot ship to certain areas.

The only things SG lists as restricted in AL is #'s 27 and 28. I found the 28 restriction by SS109 .223 ammo, I didn't find anything with a 27 restriction.

 

[Bane]

El Tejon: Thanks for the info about the AWB ban being the "main issue" here. Question: If the problem is an AWB why do they allow detachable mags for sale to Indiana at all? Also, why is the limit 15rds? SG's ban means I can still purchase "EVIL" full capacity pistol magazines! That means SG is going to allow me the capability to shoot 15 puppies/kittens without reloading but no more! Their legal team better change that right away! Who knows what kind of lawsuits they will be getting hit with from the canine/feline owning community?

 

[stoky]

LMAO! hillbilly
Thanks NineseveN, maybe if SG's business dropped off they would get rid of some lawyers.

 

[armoredman]

J&G Sales in Prescott, Arizona does something simliar and that is why I WILL NOT buy from them again.

Even though there is no Arizona state law J&G requires proof of residence in order to buy a firearm. In other words no PO boxes are accepted. And where I live there are NO street addresses.

They also require a drivers license for ammo sales of 500 rounds or more.

All that information is keyed into a computer for future reference, in case no one knows.

I say boycott all of the business that form their own senseless policies.

J&G doesn't require it - BATFE does. PO boxes are not legal on a drivers license for purchase of anything on a 4473. Check it out. You have a street address, look it up with the county you live it, or no permits could have been issued to build/place your home. Of course they computerize thier info - almost all gunshops do. This isn't to hand it off to Big Brother, it's to streamline business, like any other company.
J&G has done excellent business by me, and will get more of my money, whenever I have some.

 

[Dr.Rob]

A few years back (ten maybe?) I bought a Colt signature series 1851 Navy from the Sportsman's Guide. No hassles, an adult had to sign for it on delivery.

Last year I was DENIED a $20 tomohawk because the 'blade was too long' to ship to Colorado.

I've bought a lot of stuff from the guide over the years... but that left me scratching my head, since like Justin I've bought other knives through the mail, and can buy a hatchet without a background check or adult signature.

Thing is I really wanted that 'hawk.

 

[bearmgc]

Half the time, I can't even get the products they advertise, because they're out of them. Hence the refund check after 4 weeks. I quit shopping with SG a long time ago. This thread just reaffirms my decision.

 

[El Rojo]

I wrote them off when they wouldn't ship perfectly legal AR-15 parts to the PRK (California). I haven't been back.

True Cheaper than Dirt will ship anything anywhere. Back in the 90's I ordered some tracer rounds from them. Only after the fact did I find out they are illegal in the PRK. I only talk about it now because they have since been disposed of.

 

[JohnKSa]

Had them refuse to sell a bayonet to me.

On the other hand, I have been happy with their products and services on all other counts.

 

[Sinsaba]

... There is no state law and SG is using a void ordinance as an excuse not to make sales. ...

An EXCUSE not to make sales? If they don't want to sell you something they don't need an excuse!!! Get a grip folks! You are making it sound like ... <shh... we must wisper this... SG is in a conspiracy with the antigun crowd to make things difficult> ... uh... where's my tinfoil!!

I challenge any of you to give me one good reason why SG would want an excuse to not sell something!!

 

[jsalcedo]

I challenge any of you to give me one good reason why SG would want an excuse to not sell something!!

Because the management has lost sight of the overall goal of their company.

I've worked places that had VP's CEO's and other high level muckety mucks
that were clueless, megalomaniacal and very short sighted.

Of course these companies made horrific errors for no good reason other than possibly mad cow disease.

I am not surprised when otherwise succesful corporations shoot themselves in the foot with crazy meaningless policies that alienate customers then have no good reason or excuse to give when questioned about said policy.

 

[molonlabe]

Hey, I don't even get worked up about it. The catalog hits my garbage when I get it. They would not ship 20round magazines to me so I bought them cheaper at the local gun show.

 

[1 old 0311]

ALL companies have wierd policies. I ordered some stuff for my dog from
1-800-P*T-MEDS. After going through a $300.00 order the operator tells me she can't ship the Heart Worm to me. 'Company policy for your state.'


Kevin

 

[Byron Quick]

PO boxes are not legal on a drivers license for purchase of anything on a 4473.

Sorry, this may be true but is misleading. There are locales in the US that do not have physical address numbers. Locales where you get your mail at the post office and UPS, FedEx, and others need to get directions to your house and often drop the package at some area store because their trucks can't make it up that little mountain road.

Talk to Art Eatman here on the boards. Texas drivers license. I believe his license has a compass bearing and distance of his home from the local Post office. And the county doesn't issue building permits and such. I have personally watched as Art purchased a firearm on a 4473 with his Texas driver's license which has no physical address number on it.

 

[deadin]

This whole "physical address" thing is a Pain in the A**! Wife and I were full-time RV's for two years, travelling around the country, and we didn't have a "physical address". We wanted to keep our residency as Washington for various reasons.(Vehicle tabs, medical, taxes, etc.). Besides we never settled anyplace long enough to establish residency. Finally got a Personal Mail Box at one of the UPS stores that looked like an apartment address. Don't ask, Don't tell. Now I find we could have had our vote challenged and voided in the last election because this was not a "physical address" and I won't even go into the problems one can have with personal property insurance (i.e. firearms coverage) without a "physical address".
I fought with the "powers that be" for two years and never did get anything settled. We are now back into a house, so I don't have the problem any longer, but it still tees me off everytime everytime i see the "physical address" issue come up.

Dean

 

[Harve Curry]

Sent SG an email , I don't approve of this either and don't need to be a member or buy from them if they cannot be better Americans then this.

 

[Sinsaba]

An EXCUSE ...I challenge any of you to give me one good reason why SG would want an excuse to not sell something!!

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Because the management has lost sight of the overall goal of their company.

Ok... I'm missing it. I really don't understand. I thought the overall goal of a company like SG was to ... uh ... sell things?

 

[jsalcedo]

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Ok... I'm missing it. I really don't understand. I thought the overall goal of a company like SG was to ... uh ... sell things?

Exactly! and make money.... and make customers happy.... and get repeat business.... and not have former customers bitch about their company on the net

 

[ny32182]

I find their little mascot guy to be very irritating anyhow. I ordered from them once a while back, but especially after this thread, don't plan to do so again.

I've ordered ammo from AIM without a problem. If they have a 21 y/o rule on rifle ammo, it might just be because there are handguns chambered in nearly all rifle cartridges.

 

[Luchtaine]

Sportsmans does all sorts of whacky things. They would sell me a stock mag pouch for an M1 Carbine. Just the pouch no magazines... just a olive drab canvas pouch with U.S. printed on it... Oh well I got one from 1943 at the gun show for less money anyways.


Aparantly kangaroo leather is banned in CA too... If thats really the case someone needs to send an aussie to lecture the legislator on Kangaroos.

 

[Rockrivr1]

I used to like looking through their catalog when it came. Until I tried to order and everything I liked had a restriction to Mass. No Knives, Magazines, Ammo, Night Vision, Rifle Parts Etc. Figured why waste my time looking at the stupid thing if I can't buy any of it.

 

[Red Tornado]

I've never actually gotten around to ordering anything from SG, and now I don't won't. Bad policies are annoying, and CTD usually has everything I want.

Thanks for the heads up.
RT

 

[El Tejon]

The gun business is the business of telling people "NO!"

 

[Manedwolf]

I just tried to make a mag order from Sportsman's Guide and I was told that the sale of mags holding more than 15rds was banned to the State of Indiana (Indiana has no bans on magazines).

Try cheaperthandirt.com? Prices seem to be about the same, so does the inventory. They'll send a catalog for a request...yet another fun guns/ammo/accessories/surplus catalog to tempt you to empty your wallet!

 

[azureflier]

That's the most idiotic thing I've heard all week. Especially since I took delivery of a knife I ordered from Cold Steel last week.

I've never ordered anything from SG, and after reading this thread, it looks like it's safe to say that I never will.

Wow. I used to get their catalog in the mail -- not sure if I ever did order anything from them. I might have, back in the '90s.

But after hearing about this stuff -- NO WAY will I be giving them my money. (I liked that: "Son, don't ever beg anybody to take your money." Brilliant! )

I have to wonder if someone connected with the company will see this thread and take it seriously enough to send it up the chain of command at SG and maybe it will get rectified...

-flier

 

[El Rojo]

You know, this really was already covered last year. Just read my old thread about it. They don't care about us, so I won't support them, ever. They have a choice in who to ship to and I have a choice who to buy from. I made them aware of it and they still didn't care. I think they still don't. Oh well.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=102189&highlight=sportsman's+guide