A friend of mine just bought one of these and shot some impressive small groups at 50 yds, <.4". I researched them and found numerous reviews on YouTube. Some found the rifle to be prettyy good but one reviewer said it may just be the worst new rifle for 2023. During his trip to the range he shot 5 different quality target ammos and only one shot <1". He had numerous failures to eject and had to dig the empty out with a tool. They say It can use 10/22 mags, but using 10/22 mag but only the factory mag cycled ammo consistently. I like the looks of the rifle and like experimenting with new guns. But, I think I'll pass on this one. What say you??
Springfield Armory 2020 Target .22?
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Chuck R.
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There's another thread here on the 2020 here: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/springfield-2020-rimfire.921318/
The YouTube reviewer who said it sucks has another review of it, and his opinion hasn't changed.
There's a chance he got a bad one. I've watched quite a few of his reviews and he comes across as pretty squared away.
The YouTube reviewer who said it sucks has another review of it, and his opinion hasn't changed.
There's a chance he got a bad one. I've watched quite a few of his reviews and he comes across as pretty squared away.
gotboostvr
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While I've got no great love for the new springer rifle one bad review wouldn't sour me off them if I were interested in them.
One bad review, of a rifle that may not have been cleaned, or lubed properly wouldn't scare me off.
One bad review, of a rifle that may not have been cleaned, or lubed properly wouldn't scare me off.
troy fairweather
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Turkey is what scares me.
It is suppose to be a "target' rifle for 400 bucks. For me I would like to see if it measures just as good as the Savage 22's since they are just as inexpensive but have proven to be accurate. I personally like to wait a year or two to see what the general public thinks and let them work out any kinks it could have before I would buy one.
When it comes to you tubers, they are as helpful as one trying to empty a bucket full of water with a fork.
When it comes to you tubers, they are as helpful as one trying to empty a bucket full of water with a fork.
Ive had about a half dozen recently made turkish guns, so far they have all been really nice......well cept the 870 knock off pump gun, solid and reliable, but not nice.
A few threads on them immediately popped up at RFC when it was announced. Most were consolidated. Reading those, reviews were mixed. At the same time, those folks can be awfully particular about their rimfires.
I normally take YouTube reviews with a grain of salt. I'll give a perfect example and that is the Glock G44. The G44 got trashed by quite a few reviewers when it first came out. And the biggest problem was that they were not loading the magazines correctly. The G44 uses a semi double stack design where the rear of the cartridges is offset while the bullets are in line. And it is easier to get rim lock and other feed issues if the magazines are not loaded correctly. I bought my G44 in February of 2020, shortly after they came out and I have over 20,000 trouble free rounds shot through it.
Now on the Springfield 2020, I will wait to see once more people start shooting them. Plus I won't even consider one until they offer a left handed version.
Now on the Springfield 2020, I will wait to see once more people start shooting them. Plus I won't even consider one until they offer a left handed version.
Chuck R.
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This!!
Unless the OP has some inherent "need' to be a first.
Seriously, *** would I want to be a BETA tester for any company?
I did that once with a brand new F150 in 2004, worse freakin decision I ever made. Now I get it, some guys just want to be a first, Gunbroker is full of them bidding way over MSRP, cause they've got to have the newest thing now.
There are plenty of accurate, moderately priced .22LRs available now with a positive track record. Then again, reading posts like "Why won't my Springfield 2020 Group?" will give us all something to do.
OP here....... I'll get to shoot my friend's rifle soon. So, I'll give you guys a report. I've acquired two new .22s, a 17HMR and a .223 in the last couple years so I'm not in a hurry to break in another. I do like the look of the Springfield 2020 and will continue to assess as info becomes available.
That seems like a good plan.
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I have a friend who just bought a Springfield 2020. He put a 36x scope on it. I shot it at 50 yards a few days ago off a bench with a bipod and rear bag. I tried several lots of Eley Match. It did not shoot any of them well. It would group a few close and then throw a flyer over an inch away. The best group it shot with no flyers was with CCI SV. I shot a 10 shot group that was about 1".
I jumped in and bought one.Mine has the tannish greenish synthetic stock.The stock design felt so good to me that I just had to have it.We shoot a lot of offhand at 50 yards and the balance and weight of the 2020 just plain works for me.Like most guns,the action was a little rough for the first 100 rounds,but after around 300 rounds all I have to do is lift the bolt handle and point the barrel up and the bolt will slide open on its own if I give it a little shake.The best groups I've shot with it at 50 yards are in the .3 to .5 size for 5 shots.It's very consistent,not a good group once in a while and others not so good.I replaced the trigger with a Rifle Basix that I had in my junk box and once I got it adjusted to 1.5 pounds,I have been shooting it very well offhand.I shot it vs my somewhat modified Remington 541S and it will stay close to the 541,but it won't outshoot it.Magazines are hit and miss.My 15 rounder from my Ruger RPR will work in the 2020,but a new Ruger 10 rounder won't latch.All in all,I'm very happy with it,and thanks to Springfield for designing a stock that has enough comb height.The overall design of the stock is spectacular.I can tune the comb height with the scope ring height and make it fit the way I like it.It's not the most accurate 22 out there,but it does great for a rifle in its price range.I'd buy another one if I could justify it.And it will make a great small game getter.
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I recently came upon a thread comparing the Winchester Xpert, Hatsan Escort .22 (also Turkish) and the Springfield 2020. All grouped well non-match ammo relative to their price points. But receiver is just tapped for rings, no dovetail, so I don't see any cheap options for scope mounts.
Winchester was surprisingly light at 5 to 6 pounds, good weight for a beginner/youth or someone who wants a light woods rifle.
The Hatsan had a Turkish walnut stock and is probably the cheapest walnut/steel rimfire on the market. I own a Hatsan .25cal springer air rifle and the wood is great for what I paid.
The 2020 was the priciest but when you add up all the 'extras' the 2020 comes with it looks good. 10/22 mags are proven and cheap and buying a cheap gun that uses expensive or finiky mags isn't a bargain. Some Rugers come from the factory with poor fit in the magell so if fiddling or shimming the 2020 magwell works, that's easier than modding mags.
This seems to me to be a problem with wood stocks more than synthetic stocks with Rugers. Although I have one of each and both run fine, the Green Mtn. laminate wood stock is a bit 'looser' fit with my GSG drum vs my synthetic stock Am. rimfire.
Nice that the 2020 has so many stock grades but a grand is a bit much for the top grade wood stock, I'd buy a CZ with that kind of money. But at the base price, I'd be interested.
If you're not gonna buy something cause one guy had a bad experience you'd never buy anything.
Winchester was surprisingly light at 5 to 6 pounds, good weight for a beginner/youth or someone who wants a light woods rifle.
The Hatsan had a Turkish walnut stock and is probably the cheapest walnut/steel rimfire on the market. I own a Hatsan .25cal springer air rifle and the wood is great for what I paid.
The 2020 was the priciest but when you add up all the 'extras' the 2020 comes with it looks good. 10/22 mags are proven and cheap and buying a cheap gun that uses expensive or finiky mags isn't a bargain. Some Rugers come from the factory with poor fit in the magell so if fiddling or shimming the 2020 magwell works, that's easier than modding mags.
This seems to me to be a problem with wood stocks more than synthetic stocks with Rugers. Although I have one of each and both run fine, the Green Mtn. laminate wood stock is a bit 'looser' fit with my GSG drum vs my synthetic stock Am. rimfire.
Nice that the 2020 has so many stock grades but a grand is a bit much for the top grade wood stock, I'd buy a CZ with that kind of money. But at the base price, I'd be interested.
If you're not gonna buy something cause one guy had a bad experience you'd never buy anything.
Well.....I got to shoot my friend's Springfield 2020 this afternoon. For the money, it is a very good bargain. The stock was a composite with a bit of weight, so not the kind of gun you would want to tote around the woods for a few hours. For target shooting, the extra weight is a bonus. The finish on the stock was quite good. The bolt was a bit gritty, but still reasonably smooth. Had no failures of any kind. There were three of us and we all shot 2-3 mags full of various ammo types/brands. It did best with some pistol ammo...can't recall the brand. The trigger was something over 3 lbs. Too stiff for me. And yet every group I shot was 1" or less. My pistol ammo group was about .5". For comparison, we shot a CZ 457 MTR, a proven shooter. The CZ was better with every ammo we used, but interestingly, not by much. CZ trigger is better. My assessment is: With a good trigger and the right ammo, the Springfield 2020 is a competitive option in it's class. The stock is better than average. For the low price it is a good option for budget minded people. I'll stick with my new CZ 457 Varmint and my Bergara BXR. Great rifles.
