Springfield Ronin EMP Question

[CZ-75BD]

Hello,
I just picked up my first 1911. And a little confused. I cannot release the slide with the magazine loaded, need to pull it back a little, and that slide load round.
For all the guns I have no issue pushing the slide release and it loads round or pushing the magazine hard with an open slide and it is ready to go.
With no magazine loaded it goes easy. Is this a defect or is that how it should be?
I know dumb question, but never had a 1911 before

 

[Southerner up North]

I always pull slide back and let it go unless mag is empty and I am through shooting. It sounds like mag is too deep in the well.
What happens with empty mag inserted?

 

[Outlaw75]

Hello,
I just picked up my first 1911. And a little confused. I cannot release the slide with the magazine loaded, need to pull it back a little, and that slide load round.
For all the guns I have no issue pushing the slide release and it loads round or pushing the magazine hard with an open slide and it is ready to go.
With no magazine loaded it goes easy. Is this a defect or is that how it should be?
I know dumb question, but never had a 1911 before

Yes, you should be able to push the slide release and load the pistol if there is ammo in the magazine just like your other autoloaders. The M1911's operation is the base pattern for most modern auto loading pistols.

 

[CZ-75BD]

I always pull slide back and let it go unless mag is empty and I am through shooting. It sounds like mag is too deep in the well.
What happens with empty mag inserted?

With the empty insert, I cannot release the slide, if taking out no problem.

 

[C-grunt]

Are the mags the factory mags?

 

[Southerner up North]

With the empty insert, I cannot release the slide, if taking out no problem

Something going wrong with the mags. If factory mags, I would call SA. If aftermarket mags, try factory mags.

 

[CapnMac]

May just be "too new"--the surfaces have not "worked" against each other , particularly at full spring lock-up yet.

It'd not entirely uncommon in very new 1911, for the slide stop to lock up hard. This is often noticed with a brand new empty mag, as the follower is pressing up with maximum effort, and the plunger tube spring is also pressing with maximum effort, too. The "press area" on the slide stop is not large, either. (But is not necessarily a reason to go run out and get an extended slide stop--that's a separate, different, argument.)

So, the answer may be to go get another few boxes of ammo run through the gun.

If it strips ammo by racking the slide, then, it's "in" factory spec, which will confuse them if returned to them. And, you probably do not want their CS staff out stoning the parts and sending you back a firearm with more potential variables introduced into it. Probably.

 

[JTQ]

With the empty insert, I cannot release the slide, if taking out no problem.

You're saying with an empty mag in the gun, you cannot release the slide using the slide release, correct?

If so, that is how the gun is designed to operate. It should be very difficult if not impossible to release the slide with an empty mag inserted.

The empty mag is designed to lock the slide back. What you have is an indication of a good slide stop, good mag follower, and good mag spring. The mag/slide stop are working as designed. Besides, there is no reason to try to release the slide with an empty mag inserted.

The slide stop should release the slide with a loaded mag (a mag with rounds in the mag) inserted or with no mag in the gun. It is not designed to release the slide with an empty mag inserted.

 

[eddiememphis]

Have you tried it with a partially loaded magazine?

New magazine springs are strong, especially when fully loaded.

Fully load the magazine and let it sit for a day or two. This will weaken the spring a bit.

As others have said the new parts (slide and release) may need a bit of break-in to smooth out.

If it is still difficult, there are longer and wider releases to give you more leverage, although I am not sure if an EMP uses full size components.

 

[CZ-75BD]

Are the mags the factory mags?

It is made by Mec-Gar for Springfield. I notice that the mag does not allow the slide to move, it is sitting too high. I ordered 4 more Springfield magazines, will see how it goes. But what JQT mentioned made sense.

 

[Southerner up North]

Even with an empty mag inserted you can still use slide lock lever and release the slide and it will go into position. You have to pull slide back slightly as you would to release after inserting a loaded mag but it does release.

Not sure but is the gun new or used? I ask because you stated you ordered Springfield mags. If used, this could be why it was sold.

 

[JTQ]

But what JQT mentioned made sense.

You're saying the issue was with an empty mag? If so, that's how it is supposed to work.

 

[Southerner up North]

You're saying the issue was with an empty mag? If so, that's how it is supposed to work.

He also stated does not release with a loaded mag. You can release the slide with an empty mag inserted. That is unless mine are all faulted. Not saying it is easy to do but can be done

 

[JTQ]

He also stated does not release with a loaded mag.

That's what I'm trying to clarify with the OP. I think his OP was "with a magazine loaded", and not "with a loaded magazine".

An empty mag in the gun - were talking a 1911 style pistol - it should be very difficult, if not impossible to release the slide with the slide stop.

Same situation with a Glock, or something else, different story.

 

[Southerner up North]

That's what I'm trying to clarify with the OP. I think his OP was "with a magazine loaded", and not "with a loaded magazine".

An empty mag in the gun - were talking a 1911 style pistol - it should be very difficult, if not impossible to release the slide with the slide stop.

Same situation with a Glock, or something else, different story.

We took it with different views. Magazine loaded to me, means ammo in mag and mag inserted.
Not disagreeing on it being difficult to release the slide with an empty mag. Can be done just takes releasing the tension by pulling slide back a bit.

 

[JTQ]

We took it with different views. Magazine loaded to me, means ammo in mag and mag inserted.

We don't know. I'm hoping for clarification from the OP.

 

[JTQ]

Not disagreeing on it being difficult to release the slide with an empty mag. Can be done just takes releasing the tension by pulling slide back a bit.

There is no reason to release the slide with an empty mag inserted, so if it is difficult to nearly impossible to accomplish, there is no function lost.

 

[CZ-75BD]

It is a new gun, I have been assured of that by sending an email to the store I bought it from.

"Hello Mr. ***

We received your pistol new from Springfield Armory on June 26, 2023. They are fired at the factory but not here. This pistol was new in the box when we shipped it to you. I apologize for any concerns you had regarding the condition. We appreciate your business"

 

[Southerner up North]

We don't know. I'm hoping for clarification from the OP.

Agree. At least we know pistol is new based on op's response.
Like you, I say slap a loaded magazine in and safely release slide. Even with a loaded magazine I always pull slide back and release. I do not use slide lock lever.