State of the Union address...

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I'm curious as to your reception of President Bush's address. What do you think of it? Are you encouraged by it?

Was anything he said a call to personal action on your part? Did it change any of your opinions?

Let the examination begin...
 
Much better than I expected. I expect him to be reamed a few sizes larger tomorrow over the comment about Al Quaida leaders who were not arrested ("Let's just say, that those people are no longer a problem for America or our allies.") but I liked it.

He sold the tax cut well.

To be honest, I'm edging closer to his position on Iraq.

I'm not in love with the feds subsidizing everything in sight, but if they're going to do it, I think fuel cell technology is the logical place to put the money.
 
Great speech. He mispoke seldom and the delivery was strong and focused. He made a good case for war, and unfortunately I think we will have to end up choosing this course. Better say your prayers for the members of the armed forces- we may soon be attacking a foe that is pefectly willing to use chemical and biological agents so they're going to need them. I will be waiting to see what Powell has to say on Feb. 5.
 
I agree. I thought he did a good job. Probably didn't do anything for Hillary and Ted and that crowd but nothing he could have said would have helped there. I was encouraged by most of what he had to say.
 
Twelve years without compliance. :fire:
We need to force compliance, sadly it will result in the deaths of some of our brave soldiers. :(

I liked the speech, I am not a huge Bush fan, but we need to stomp on Iraq and soon.

I really like the hydrogen car stuff. Just like the sci-fi of my misguided youth. :D
 
A bit of a preface: I'm not a long-time Bush fan, and I never thought he really spoke well in general. Except for that one time at the WTC site, that is.

The address started pretty weak and generic, to be honest. It picked up some speed at the end of the domestic agenda, and the bit about $15 billion for AIDS in Africa. That had me thinking he was going to do an above-average job.

When he started talking about Iraq, though... wow. :eek:

IMHO he completely kicked butt on the issue of war with Iraq. He really does belive that war with Iraq is absolutely necessary to protect America, and did a MUCH better job of selling his point of view than any previous attempt by the administration to do so. Interestingly enough, he mentioned that Powell is going to give the UN a big evidence dump on February 5th. There is a real possibility that Bush intentionally held back on giving the evidence for his hard-line stance to give his domestic and international critics enough rope to hang themselves.

As a side note, for the entire speech (even the weaker bits at the start), the "technical" quality of his speaking was way better than it had been in the past... aside from pronouncing "nuclear" as "nucular" he didn't really have any gaffes or verbal trip-ups to speak of.
 
I had guests over so I didn't catch the whole thing. I just have a small question: why was he talking about Iran then North Korea? Did he mess up and mean to mention Iraq instead?
 
No, he didn't mess up. He talked about Iran, North Korea, then a long time about Iraq.
 
I thought the address was great.

I am glad that he is spending money on hydrogen fuel research.

He fortified my position on Iraq.

I am glad that he pushing his tax cut now.

I want to be able to manage my social security.

If anyone has a link to a transcript I would appreciate it if you would post it.
 
Thumbs up.

I'm leery of attempts to tie Iraq to Al Queda and the War on Terror as it has been fought thus far, but I buy the logical argument that he is a credible threat, and could easily funnel his armaments to terrorists. The problem is that this creates calls for a smoking gun, and that is not to be found. At all. Period. Move on.

I think he's better off when he sticks to the simple facts of the matter: Saddam is a nutjob. He has toys he's not supposed to have, and has agreed not to possess. He's not playing along with the inspectors. We've dithered with him long enough. Its time to pop the pimple.

All in all, a very good job.

Mike
 
No, he was making a point that there are people in these countries that wish to live without the yoke of dictaorship and he was saying that he supported those people.
Itwas a great speech. I have come to respect Bush quite a bit, I think he really means what he says and is prepared to be unpopular in following through, something Clinton would never do.
 
I wasn't able to hear it all, but from what I did hear of it, I'm inspired and optimistic for our future, both short & long term.
 
Did anybody notice the masterful political end-run he made on the Democrats? When he made mention of the tax cuts that “congress has already passed� He did a great job of taking all the wind out of the Democrats sails by taking the initiative and saying the cuts have already been passed. And if congress thinks its good down the road, then it is good now. The man is sly like a fox.
 
I was kinda hoping he would surprise everyone by pulling out from under the podium the decapitated head of Saddam Hussein and shaking it at Hillary. What a statement that would have made. Oh well, an opportunity lost.
 
The world has waited 12 years for Iraq to disarm. America will not accept a serious and mounting threat to our country, our friends, and our allies. The United States will ask the UN Security Council to convene on February 5th to consider the facts of Iraq's ongoing defiance of the world. Secretary of State Powell will present information and intelligence about Iraq's illegal weapons programs; its attempts to hide those weapons from inspectors; and its links to terrorist groups. We will consult, but let there be no misunderstanding: If Saddam Hussein does not fully disarm, for the safety of our people, and for the peace of the world, we will lead a coalition to disarm him.
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Here comes the intel for the doubters in the world.
 
Coronach,

I understand your point, but are you sure that we don’t have what we need to tie active terrorists and Iraq/Saddam together? If you take a step back from the whole thing and look at the sequence of events from beginning to end, every single step Bush has taken and every single claim he has made has paid off when he needs it to somewhere down the road. I agree with you that we don’t need to have a “court worthy†link between Saddam and al Queda, but I think its there. Moreover, I think when the time is right it’ll come out. I don’t think Bush is making unverifiable claims. I think he has just been unwilling to tip his hat until he’s ready. Time will tell.
 
I was kinda hoping he would surprise everyone by pulling out from under the podium the decapitated head of Saddam Hussein and shaking it at Hillary.
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Or vice-versa. :evil:
 
There is actually considerable evidence already in the public sector supporting claims of Hussein's connection to Al-Qaeda, and even foreknowledge (if not direct involvement) in 9/11. Small example: he disappeared from public view soon before 9/11.
 
It was so good that it put Ted Kennedy to sleep. I wonder if he ever woke up? Or did the courage and logic expressed rupture a blood vessel in his brain. I was watching it on CNN.
 
Here comes the intel for the doubters in the world.
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It won't matter...the doubters aren't concerned with facts, only feelings and political posturing.

I do hope that Secretary Powell is circumspect in what he reveals to a body which cares nothing about the US position other than the likelihood that we will continue to bankroll their vicious, anti-American diatribes.

A pox on the UN and the bigots such as Kofi Annan who have no greater interest than maintaining their ability to step up to podia in their $2000 suits.
 
Contrary to what the Demorats and their liberal media mouthpieces, Bush is not a BUBBA. He speaks in plain English and he means just what he says. His command of the language is far better than he lets on. Never be conned into thinking he is not as sharp as a tack, his demeaner is all an act. He didn't get where he is by being dumb.

Excellent speech
 
I was watching the Democrats throughout the speech. I thought that they were in a tough position.

It was a very good speech. The AIDS initiative in Africa was a great thing, but I wonder what it will entail. I fear that the help will not reach those in need.

Iraq was solid, but Powell will need to present some solid evidence.

Fuel cell .. well .. Clinton pulled that one and claimed that it would come to market in five years. .. We will see..

Where is all the money coming from???? ..ahh err..oh ya..
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Sean Smith- Thanks. I was wondering what was going on. I'll have to read the transcript.
 
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