Stealing Gas.

[armoredman]

I van pool, and put a locking cap on my tank. It's a 93 Ford Tempo, so the only thing worth stealing IS the gas.... At least where we park has some kind of security wandering around...

 

[Gewehr98]

That's the first time I heard a Cessna 150 being described as "big", too.

Last time I did an A/R (Aerial Refueling) we took on just over 50,000 pounds of JP-8 from the tanker. How many "Big" Cessna 150's does that equate to in weight?

Another money question. I have approximately 150,000 pounds of fuel capacity on my WC-135W. One thing I don't know is the going rate for JP-8, as sold to the government these days when gasoline is at $3/gallon. I'll assume it's somewhere between diesel and gasoline in the price structure, sans taxes of course. So just how much would, say, a 100,000 pound onload of JP-8 cost Uncle Sam for each of my sorties?

 

[Bullet Bob]

When I was working in the emergency room at Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, we had a young teenager come in one night because he forgot to quit sucking in time - had about one to two inches of gas in his lungs, and was one sick puppy! SYmpathy level was not too high.

 

[72Rover]

Bad gas

Here's another one with a happy ending. Well, for me, anyway....

A while back, I filled up the sailboat at the club's piers. Little did I know that it was the dregs of the tank and that they had to pump it the following week because of the contamination. The fuel carbonized the valves and crudded up the inside of the little, dependable Atomic 4 something fierce. Even bent a valve or two. Anyway, I replaced the head gasket and the bent valves for not too much coin, but I still had to dispose of 20 gallons of bad gas.

Anyway, my boat slip is adjacent to the best fishin' hole on the whole river. There's always a small boat out there....

So I come back to make plans on how to transport the bad gas, as I only have two 5-gal jerry cans. The gas is gone. All twenty gallons of it. Stolen. Every drop it seems.

Excellent!

No doubt, there was some immediate negative reinforcement....

Cheers

 

[Rabid Rabbit]

Somebody took about 8 gals out of my car once. I was ticked then I realized they thought they were getting gas, the car was diesel and they may have screwed up their car, they I was happy. I wonder how much damage running diesel through a gas car causes?

 

[YankeeRebel]

I sent this as a private message, but here goes:

I just like the phrase "Big Cessna 150". I hold a flight certificate and have to renew it every two years and do it through the Aircraft Owners & Pilot Assn. We had one AOPA instructor that owned a 150 and flew it out of Dulles Airport near Washington D.C.(IAD). He related that when he called ground control he got told to stand by. But those that suffexed their callsign with heavy, denoting a takeoff weight of 250,00 pounds or more, got immediate taxi clearence. So guess what, he called them with his aircraft registration number and suffixed it with "heavy". The first time there was silence from ground control. They all knew him and knew what was going on. He now receives prompt taxi instructions with his heavy callsign just as the big guys get.

Gewehr98,

Now, 50,000 pounds of jet fuel would be 31.25 Cessna 150s, big or otherwise. < I never took on that much fuel in the RF-4C.

 

[zahc]

negative reinforcement

I'm tired of hearing this term used improperly. Negative reinforcement is the removal of an aversive stimulus to reward a behavior. It is still reinforement.

 

[mole]

My uncle had problems with someone stealing gas from his car a few years ago. He solved it by getting a gas can and filling it with gas mixed with sugar and leaving it on this carport. The next morning the gas can was gone. A few days later a neighbor's 4x4 stopped running.

 

[Moondoggie]

Once upon a time my uncle was working construction up on top of a 4 story office building. During lunch while he and his buds were sitting on the edge a TransAm pulls up next to Uncle's pickup. Out jumps a young dipstick with a pair of boltcutters and cuts the lock on Uncle's saddle tank. Furious pumping ensued.

One of Uncle's buds says "Hey, Sam, ain't you gonna run down there & whip their young butts?"

Uncle says "Nah, they can have all of the diesel they want!"

 

[Avenger29]

Size is all relative, eh?

A 150, BIG? ...My instructor and I sit elbow to elbow in the 152 (basically a slightly different version of the 150). It is small- I bump my head on the wings constantly during preflights. My father owns a 182D (long range) that holds 84 gallons of fuel (but fortunatly is STC'd for auto fuel). The 150 or 152 only holds 26 gallons. If I were flying my private aircraft now, I would wait for refueling just before flight- even if I had to put the plane in a hanger or put tarps on the wings to avoid rain getting in the rubber fuel bladders and forming ice dams in the wrinkles. It is hard to secure a plane b/c of the fuel drains always allowing access to the tanks (even through at a slow rate. A hanger is your best bet. Fortunatly, gas theft has not really materialized around here except through drive-offs at the pump.

 

[pete f]

Neighbor down the street has a big go fast boat. It holds over 350 gals of fuel he said the last fill up was a thousand bucks. he had someone siphon out gas. they took what they wanted and left the hose running. he said probably 200 gallons were on the street when the fire dept got there.



IF you use braided stainless hose you can siphon a new car. i just tried it with my wifes 05 Jeep Liberty