Stoeger SxS with rough at muzzle?

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We got a Stoeger coatchgun in 12 guage. I'm happy with it and it's fun to shoot. But I've noticed that the last 1/2" of the bore at the muzzle is rough. It looks intentional as both are done the same and it's uniformly done - like it was done after polishing the bore.

I've read somewhere, maybe on this forum, a suggestion as a way to improve patterns when shooting loads with plastic wads was to roughen up the ends of the bore. The reason given was that the rough patch would hold onto the plastic wad just a bit and let the shot exit with less disturbance.

What I'm trying to find out is if the rough at the muzzle is a feature or a flaw. Anyone else notice thus in a Stoeger coachgun? Or have some relative experience with a rough patch at the muzzle end?
 
You have a picture? Does that "rough patch" look like threading since you said it was uniform? Could be threads for a choke tube in which case I wouldn't shoot the gun untill you get some chokes in there.
Not a good idea to be shooting over naked threads.
 
The gun was bought new from the store the day after Thanksgiving. They are definitely not choke tube threads. The model is 31400 coatchgun with 20" barrels. The rough marks are more like made with 300 grit sandpaper. It'll be tough to get a picture and I've not posted pictures on this forum.
 
While Stoeger SxS shotguns are affordable, functional and reliable, they are not known for fit and finish. Sounds more like machining marks that did not get polished out. If it really is a concern, you should be able to contact Stoeger thru their website. According to their website, the model 31400 20'' SxS comes with fixed chokes.
 
My friend, that's just piss-poor finishing. Nothing more. Quite depressing. I suggest you return it for one that actually got finished.
 
My friend, that's just piss-poor finishing. Nothing more.
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Got to agree. And as to patterns, I have found that the longer the shotcup stays with the shot, as long as the cup does not upset, the tighter the pattern. I would not call that a feature.
 
A couple of months back we bought a Stoeger Uplander at a gunshow that was said to be previously owned but not fired. It's the same basic gun. The barrels are smooth and bright all the way. The local gunshop had two Stoeger coachguns on their display rack. Next time I'm that way, I'll check them out.
 
I bought mine about 3 years ago, and while it was not as rough as yours, there were what appeared to be sanding marks in the last 3/4" or so. I chucked a brass bore brush in the drill, put a dab of Flitz on it, and in about 30 seconds both bbl's were shiny and smooth. A whole lot simpler than returning it.

Other than that cosmetic flaw, mine has been absolutely perfect thru approx 500 rounds so far. The rest of the fit and finish are excellent and I couldn't be happier with the purchase. Good luck with it......
 
Don't know if the condition of your barrel is on purpose of just one that got through QA without being fully finished.

If it shoots fine and doesn't blow the patterns why worry about it? If it bothers you too much then polish the machining marks out. Life is too short to fuss about things that don't matter.
 
I'm not going to loose any sleep over it. It's main use will be cowboy action shooting. It patterns to point of aim and rolls laundry detergent jugs with authority. The contrast in the picture makes the marks look deeper and worse than they are. Maybe a day when I'm snowed in, I may polish it out.

I wanted another Uplander but the gunshop didn't have one in 12 guage. I wouldn't have taken this one home if it had stained hardwood stocks. The wood is definitely walnut and with some figure. I've never seen such nice walnut on the base priced model.

While the Uplander balances, points, and opens easier because of the longer barrels, the coadhgun is fun to shoot.
 
IMO: They did not make it that way on purpose.
It is a manufacturing defect.

And I'm OCD enough about new guns I pay good money for being made right?

It would drive me crazy until I got Stoeger to send me a call tag to send it back for barrel replacement.

That isn't going to just polish out!

rc
 
Well, I guess now I'm looking some sleep over the rough bore issue. I'm wondering if the bores are chrome lined. If so, maybe the chrome lining is stripping out? I've looked at the Stoeger information online but it doesn't tell if the bores are chrome lined. But chrome lining is standard these days with steel shot and such?
 
That is the third one I have seen like that in the last three months. Looks like someone responsible for QC was on a break. I would send it back. My LGS would not have even put it on the rack for sale. A "big box store" sale?
 
We bought it at the Gander Mountain store north of Minneapolis. I would have passed on it had it not had such nice wood for a base model. I'm real reluctant to send it back for fear they'll do more damage than good or exchange it for another with bland looking wood or another host of problems.

Now assured the barrels are not chrome, I'll just polish it out.
 
Now that you said it, that is where the three I looked at were from. The salesman said they were getting quite a few that looked like that.
 
Did they send them back?

I worked in the engineering department at a large factory for 33.5 years. They initially had a QC department with one or more inspectors in every section on every shift. Some parts got 100% inspected an others, like common hardware, were audit inspected on receiving. The final product was inspected. Then new management, new rules. Most of the inspector jobs were eliminated. The few that remained were assigned to receiving and shipping departments. The majority of the parts were "self inspected". That is, the person that made the part, inspected his own work. Well, a constant turnover in people and job shifting, assured quality would go to hell in a handbasket!
 
I also worked for a company for 36 years, world renowned for high quality products, until I retired.

There towards the end, the bean-counters decided it was cheaper to deal with the few customer complaints they received, and send the whiners a freebie to quite them down.
Then it was to reject everything that didn't meet the quality standards and trash it.

We got cash rewards for cutting down rejects and recycle flow of bad products.
The best ideas involved shipping everything we made and dealing with complaints later.

Very few people bother to follow through on a complaint and send defective stuff back anymore.
And that's a big part of the problem.

If returns exceeded sales?
Guess what would happen to the profit margin of any company?
And then, what would eventually happen to the company.

The company I worked for once had 26,000 employee's.
Now they have less then 9,000, and are still closing plants right & left.
They will not survive much longer, after being in business for 100 years.

Unfortunately, it seems most all the firearms manufactures have adopted the same business model in the last 10-15 years.

I guess it costs less to fix a few defects for the few that bother to send them back in.
Then it does to let the others keep what they sent out the door with obvious defects after there was no Q-Check department left to catch them.

rc
 
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