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I've heard of mall ninjas but this may be the first case of a supermarket ninja that I've heard. Sounds like this guy had some real issues.....


'Wannabe' cop is headed to prison

From the Marylannd Gazette

By Eric Hartley Staff Writer

Former security guard had felony conviction, but still carried a gun

At first, Tom Middleton figured the Crown Victoria zipping past him on Route 32 was a fellow county police officer who drove a similar car. But when he sped up to catch the white Ford, he saw the driver wasn't who he expected.

The car suddenly slowed, pulled behind Detective Middleton's unmarked Jeep and turned on its police lights. But when Detective Middleton started to pull over, the driver turned off its lights and drove away.

That seemed suspicious, so Detective Middleton turned his own lights on and pulled over the car. The driver, Karl G. Salenieks, was friendly, explaining he worked for Fallsway Security and was on his way home. He mentioned he knew some county officers.

Detective Middleton could have issued traffic citations, but didn't have enough to arrest Salenieks that night, so he let him go. Still, the empty gun holster at Salenieks' side and his curious actions on the highway - a security guard trying to pull someone over, then turning his lights off and speeding away - set off alarm bells in his mind, and he decided to investigate.

After discovering Salenieks was barred from carrying firearms because of two 1989 robbery convictions, Detective Middleton arrested him March 5 at the Weis grocery store in Odenton. He was working as a security guard there and carrying a gun.

Police also got a search warrant for the white Ford and Salenieks' Crofton town house. What they found resembled the contents of a police supply room - handguns, an assault shotgun, bulletproof body armor, handcuffs, leg irons, a

Taser, badges and more.

"In his mind, he was police," Detective Middleton said. "He was in a

dream world."

Salenieks, 34, pleaded guilty Thursday in county Circuit Court to being a convicted felon in possession of a handgun and to first-degree assault for pointing his gun at a man in November. Under the plea deal, he will get at least six years in prison, but the prosecutor can ask for up to 10. He'll be sentenced Sept. 12.

State law requires the five years for the handgun charge to be served with no chance of parole.

Salenieks was initially charged with impersonating a police officer, but prosecutors didn't pursue that charge because it carries less time.

Salenieks worked for a retired Anne Arundel County officer, Kevin Falls, doing security at retail stores. He's also been a bail bondsman for years - and has continued to act as one since his arrest, listing a Glen Burnie office, court records show.

The white Ford, in which he tried to pull over the real officers, was registered to Fallsway Security. The company has since been fined by the state for hiring Salenieks and five other unlicensed guards.

What led Salenieks to act like a police officer will likely be explored at his sentencing, but it was clear to Detective Middleton from the first encounter Feb. 19, that he had an affinity for law enforcement.

"When we pulled him over, the first thing out of his mouth was, 'I know who you are. You guys are TPU.' That's not a typical thing a citizen knows," Detective Middleton said.

"TPU" refers to tactical patrol units, detectives who conduct targeted enforcement instead of responding to 911 calls.

And when Salenieks was arrested, he had all the paraphernalia of a policeman: handcuffs, a baton, pepper spray and a .40-caliber Sig Sauer semiautomatic handgun - the same kind actual county police carry.

"Your typical wannabe police," said Detective Middleton, a 13-year veteran.

After Salenieks' arrest was reported in the media, a man reported to police that Salenieks had pointed a gun at him in November outside a Glen Burnie Weis store. Salenieks also pleaded guilty Thursday to a felony assault charge in that case.

Assistant State's Attorney Virginia Miles said Jerome Pearmon was talking to his girlfriend when Salenieks marched outside, walked straight over to the couple and pointed a gun in Mr. Pearmon's face.

The shocked couple said they were going to call police, but Salenieks called police himself, and two officers came out and spoke to Salenieks.

"The officers, already having talked to the defendant and very clearly, according to Mr. Pearmon, being friends with the defendant, had no interest in his side of the story," Ms. Miles said.

She said the officers told Mr. Pearmon that Salenieks probably had a good reason for pulling a gun on him.

Ms. Miles said Salenieks told Mr. Pearmon, "What are you talking about? What gun? I never pulled a gun on you."

He later claimed he was protecting his co-worker from Mr. Pearmon, but Ms. Miles said there was no evidence the couple had actually been arguing.

After his arrest, Salenieks claimed he was allowed to carry guns, saying at different points his record had been expunged and he'd been pardoned by the governor. Neither is true; court records show Howard County judges have denied all his expungement requests.

Salenieks' lawyer, Peter S. O'Neill, said Salenieks' robbery convictions in Howard County came when he was 17.

"He's been a law-abiding citizen" since then, Mr. O'Neill said, adding that a number of friends and relatives will speak on Salenieks' behalf at the sentencing.
 
This, folks, is a classic case of what real cops call a "strange ranger".

Sigh.

We must do everything we can to make sure CCWers don't look or act like this. In the discretionary or zero-carry states, one strong barrier to reform is a stated belief among top cops (either honestly or otherwise) that CCW will become a breeding ground for "strange rangers".
 
Ah, yet another case of an ordinary commoner thinking he could exercise his freedom to work in his chosen profession and own items the Second Amendment guaranteed he could own. Fool.

Well, the first-class citizens set him straight at least! It's a good thing we have them to track us down too, if we should ever start trying to rise above our second-class status!

On the other hand, pointing guns at people for no reason is well into the criminal zone--and he should sit behind bars for a long time for that.
 
Have pitched a few wannabe cases. None have involved guns.

A "DoD copper" ID to buy drinks for chicks at a bar in West Lafayette for the funniest. Closest I came to a gun case was a guy walking around K-Mart with a badge and empty holster telling everyone he was investigating a meth case and an attempt on the President's life. The last one involved a lengthy stay at the state hospital.:D

Why doesn't the company just do background checks? One would think their attorneys would encourage that.:uhoh: :scrutiny:
 
Jim said:
We must do everything we can to make sure CCWers don't look or act like this. In the discretionary or zero-carry states, one strong barrier to reform is a stated belief among top cops (either honestly or otherwise) that CCW will become a breeding ground for "strange rangers".

Absolutely. A CCW has absolutely nothing to do with law enforcement, fighting crime, catching crooks or making arrests. Its only purpose is defense of self or loved ones from immediate, serious bodily harm. A CCW confers no authority whatsoever, only permission to pack. This is super-important to emphasize when discussing CCW policy, and also a good reason to have mandatory training. If they have mandatory training and it only covers a) use of force ethics and law and b) what a CCW is and isn't, that would be a worthwhile 16 hours.
 
Why doesn't the company just do background checks?

Because it costs money.

The security business, especially the low end, is about having the lowest price per warm body hour.
 
Phetro, dude, the guy was flashing lights and pulling people over. He has mental problems. I think it is a reach to think that this is jackbooted thuggery keeping the poor libertarian activist down. Unless you are really trying to find reasons to be offended?
 
Liberal Gun Nut Why should they require mandatory training? Quite a few states dont require it and it seems to work fine. Some people are just whacked on their own. And training will not weed them out.

Theres always going to be a few nutjobs whether we require training or not.
 
And when Salenieks was arrested, he had all the paraphernalia of a policeman: handcuffs*, a baton*, pepper spray* and a .40-caliber Sig Sauer semiautomatic handgun* - the same kind actual county police carry.

"Your typical wannabe police," said Detective Middleton, a 13-year veteran.

* I have all these as well.:uhoh:
 
When I lived in NY there was a Hasidic guy that drove a crown vic with JC whitney lights behind the grill that would use it to get through traffic on the Palisades parkway quicker, till he tried to pass an off duty LEO...

If anything you'd think that CCWs and such would be more precipitous to sillyness.

I blame the employer, sounds like this guy needs some help, I wonder if his lawyer will go for mental problems at sentencing. Also good job for the cop spotting this guy.
 
And when Salenieks was arrested, he had all the paraphernalia of a policeman: handcuffs*, a baton*, pepper spray* and a .40-caliber Sig Sauer semiautomatic handgun* - the same kind actual county police carry.

"Your typical wannabe police," said Detective Middleton, a 13-year veteran.

* I have all these as well

As do many of us. However, I bet that you don't try to pull over other cars with flashing lights, point guns at people nor are you prohibited from legally owning firearms due to prior criminal behavior. ;)
 
That's one unhappy-looking guy. I'd be interested in finding out just how he got the guns, being a convicted felon and all.


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This isnt a CCW issue at all. This guy is a multiply convicted violent felon. He cant get a CCW- as a matter of fact, he can't even own firearms at all.

If anything, this guy is a greater threat to the reputation of the police who he was apparently masquerading as. I'm glad the cops caught him and took him off the street before he hurt someone while acting out his enforcement fantasies.
 
this is why I include a link with the story everytime

links go bad and dissappear


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Cases like these - an established part of the public record - are why I will NOT pull over for an unmarked car, regardless of what kind of lights it has on the dash or behind the grill.

It may land me in hot water once a "real" squad car shows up - for which I'll pull over promptly - but considering the documented instances of fake police around (including here in central TX) I'm willing to take my chances in court.
 
Ah, yet another case of an ordinary commoner thinking he could exercise his freedom to work in his chosen profession and own items the Second Amendment guaranteed he could own. Fool.

never mind he was a convicted felon, and hence, had no Second Amendment rights anymore. never mind he was pulling people over and impersonating the police.

:banghead:
 
In my state, BG checks are done for any type of security position (armed or not) and you have to have a state license. If armed security or investigation (of which I am in private investigation), you must get a CHL even if you open carry (at my firm, all investigators carry concealed).

Background checks are done every two years for normal investigators and those who must go into areas that armed LEO's are allowed to go must have checks annually due to we are deputized by the Sheriff to perform investigations for the department.

As for this person, he was living in his own dream world and was a danger to the public. We have had a few try to get hired by our firm but were quickly rejected. We are not LEO's, we don't want to be LEO's, we are a civilian contracted investigative firm for the Sheriff's Department and that is it.
 
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