Swiss K31 vs M96 Swedish Mauser

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I'm interested in picking up another milsurp and I'd like something that's a good shooter right out of the gate. Given how well both the Swedes and the Swiss built and maintained their rifles, this is true of both the M96 Mauser and the K31. Both use fairly hard to find ammo, both have a reputation for good accuracy and mild shooting characteristics, and both cost about $500 all told.

Which should I buy?
 
The 6.5 Swede is rising in popularity. I see it at a few of the gun stores that I frequent. I cannot say the same for the 7.5 Swiss. You're right that both are great; but if I could only have one, I'd go with the Swede. The straight bolt on the Swiss is cool, but I'd appreciate the consistency of a standard bolt action more than the novelty of the straight pull.
 
6.5 ammo is easier to find *but* the ammo you can find tends to be modern stuff that's lighter than the ammo your Swede may have been built for. The Swede military bullets IIRC were quite heavy. So to really make one shine you may need to handload.

GP-11 is the ammo for the Swiss. Replicating with handloads is never going to be 100% but you can get close.

So in either case you'll probably end up wanting to handload, and these days components are all in poor supply. I'd say you should handle examples and decide based on what you prefer. The Swiss is a bulkier piece with a straight pull action, the Swede is a lean and light classic Mauser bolt gun.
 
Wow have the swedes come up that much? I found one for my dad last year for $250 on GB. I have to vote 6.5 as well but the K31 is an amazing rifle as well.
 
Better get both.
If you realy have to choose, i own 3 k31 and 1 carl gustav. The swede get most of the range time. 6.5x55 has become my favorite caliber, very accurate, flat schooting , powerful yet mild on the shoulder
Have fun
Peter
 
Those are two of the best milsurps, so get both. I'd sacrifice something else to keep both of mine.
 
I just bought a Swede 96 over a Swiss K31. I've only fired 20 rds so far but I like it. I ordered a tall front sight from Brownells to rezero it @ 100 yds. From the looks of the new sight I'll be filing for a while! I think it is about 3/8" tall. Either way you win but everyone I've asked loved their Swedish Mauser.
 
Get both. You can get the 7.5 Swiss brass from Graf & Son Mexico, MO. I suspect they will also have 6.5 brass. It is Priv Partisan brass and I have loaded it before for a friend and it is good brass.
 
As for the rifles, I prefer the K31 over the M96. However, I would rather have a modern rifle chambered in 6.5x55 Swede over 7.5x55 Swiss as I have a little more love for the magic 6.5x55.

Both rifles and respective cartridges often yield results worthy of bragging about. I can't go wrong with either, but I'll choose the K31 if forced to between the two.
 
They are both good rifles, both accurate and both well made. I give a slight edge to the K31 simply because that straight pull action is a little more fun to shoot.

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Which should I buy?
If it were me I would buy whichever one you find first in the configuration and condition you want. I like the K31 as is and in swedes prefer carbine length rifles (m38 and cavalry carbine) or anything with micrometer sights.
My 0.02$ only buy something in great shape especially bore wise and don't overspend.
 
You need both. An M94 Swede and a K31. The 6.5x55 in a little 17" barrel firing 160 gr pills is the ultimate woods gun while the K31 remains an excellent example of the full size bolt era battle rifle. If you have to choose, go Swede and handload using euro brass.
 
If you are going to leave them stock I would probably give the edge to the K-31 for a better sight picture. The rear site notch in my Husqvarna is just a little too shallow in my opinion. As for the accuracy factor it would be hard for me to give the edge to either as they will both outshoot my ability, but I still enjoy the heck out of practicing with them.
 
I've owned a custom 6.5x55 for over 20 years that was built by my father and handed down to me. I've killed a handful of deer with the custom 6.5 and have a bear skin rug from a Mew Mexico black bear killed by my father in 1970 with said 6.5 Swede. I also owned a M96, so I have a very soft spot for the 6.5x55mm and rifles so chambered.
That being said, I've owned around 8 - 10 K-31's. They are simply superbly crafted, amazingly accurate rifles. Hands down I'd get a K-31 first, then a M96, but I bet if you get a K-31, you'll lose interest in the Swede.

Supporting reasons:
Ammunition:
Surplus 6.5x55 ammunition is all but non-existent. K-31 surplus ammunition is abundant and incredibly accurate. In fact I received an e-mail from AIM Surplus a few minutes ago advertising GP-11 ammunition for as little as 52.5¢ per round. As an avid handloader, I can tell you first-hand that it is very, very difficult to handload ammunition that is appreciably more accurate than GP-11. 6.5 Swede and 7.5 Swiss is both loaded by Hornady and Prvi.

From a handloaders perspective, .30 caliber bullets are much more abundant that .264" bullets.

Firearm:
As stated previously, the craftsmanship that went into the production of K-31's is stunning and the rifles, as-issued, are very, very accurate. The K-31's bolt is incredibly slick and fast to operate. I've fired High Power matches with standard bolt rifles and K31's and there's simply no comparison; the K-31 with its straight pull bolt is infinitely faster and reloads (required during rapid-fire strings) are WAY faster with the K-31 whether performed with extra magazines or the cardboard stripper clips.

We can all type our opinions or even experiences, but a picture, or pictures, as they say, is worth a thousand words. Therefore, I submit the following visual dissertation (All groups were fired @ 100 yds. All ammunition was surplus GP-11 unless otherwise identified, much of the ammo was cast bullet handloads):

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(This group was fired prone, sling support only, at 600 yds. w/aperture sights)
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I have lots more pictures, but surely everyone gets the idea...;)

35W
 
I've shot both rifles in CMP vintage military matches. I started out with a M96 Swede then tried the K31. Let me say that both are great guns, IMO the best milsurps by far.

After shooting the K31 for about 3 years I went back to the Swede. I can just shoot it a little better, I think its the super long sight radius plus the 6.5 x 55 is just a sweet shooter!.

As a handloader, the 7.5 x 55 really puts you through your paces. It took me all three years to get rounds to chamber reliably. Plus no 2 K31's have the same throat depth.

Laphroaig
 
Those are two of the best milsurps, so get both. I'd sacrifice something else to keep both of mine.


Ditto, I have a K31 and Swede M38, both great rifles. Much 6.5x55 modern civilian ammo runs .264" and is small for my 1941 M38 Husky bore, which slugs at .268".

But never discount the Finn M39. I have three of the M39 rifles, two unissued and like new 1968 no names and one 1942 Sako, and they are all deadly accurate.
 
I have hunted with the 6.5x55 for over 30 years now. I would not characterize the ammo as "hard to find". Just don't expect it in the "big box" stores.

I would be happy with either gun. My caliber preference is obvious.
 
mabey a factory rebuild m96 is an option?
they are called cg 63 and are build for 300 matches , everything breathes quality on these rifles , and i know i like mine !

i do cast my own bullets for this rifle , i also paperpatch the bullets.
 

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I have both... I like both.. If I could only have one it would probably be the Swede. There is more factory ammo and brass available for it. The 6.5x55 is also very pleasant shooting. I also find the style of the Swede to be a little more classical and elegant. The only thing I don't like about the M96 is that the iron sights are only graduated down to 300M. The M38 or K31 don't have that issue.
 
I didn't see anyone mention it, but if your eyes are like mine, the K-31 has an excellent clamp on scope mount available.

Those two are pretty much the pick of the litter and you can't go wrong.
RT
 
Since you can get both for the price of a bargain brand AR15 (or less), why not get both? Old warhorses never loose their usefullness.
 
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