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About the only thing I don't like on my P01 is the rail. I never use it, but bought thinking I would. If I were to start from scratch, I'd start with the PCR instead, and save some girth on my carry gun.

Not a big deal though.
 
Cardboard killer said:
... I actually liked the black better, but the coating got a gouge in it.

If it ever comes up again:

You can do pretty nice touchups with Dupli-Color matte black auto body touch-up paint. Use the small applicator bottle with brush for big gouges, and get the larger spray can for fine, tiny scratches.

1) If the gouge or scratch is thick, fill it with the touch-up paint from the bottle with the brush, as it's thicker. Let it dry thorough, and then trim with a razor, if necessary.

2) if the scratch is minor, use the spray version, sprayed only aluminum foil, and then applied with an appropriate brush. The spray paint is thinner, and allows for a smoother, finer finish.

3) you can sometimes smooth it all up with a light hit with very, very fine (wet/dry) sandpaper and water. You may find that doing 1), then 2) then 3) works best for deep scratches.

Just using a brush (with the thinner paint), I've been able to make repairs not visible to the naked eye.

Most of the matte black auto-body touch up paints seem very close to the Dupli-color paint.

As noted, the polycoat finish has slowly evolved and improved over the years until it's one of the most durable finishes that isn't a metal plating.
 
My CZ-75 Retro is my favorite 9mm I own. As a matter of fact, I liked it so much I sent it to the CZ Custom Shop and had them work their magic on it, now it is absolutely phenomenal.

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^^^^^^^^I know Walt feels the same way, but the CZ Retro is my favorite. I should have bought one when they were released, but as I already had a 75B, and 75D, I thought what do I "need" that for. It's got nothing to do with need, that pistol just looks right, and I'm sure with the work is just a superb shooter, not that they aren't out of the box. The grips just make that pistol also.

Very, very nice. Maybe CZ will bring them back??? One can only hope.
 
The good looks of the original 75, with the improvements of the B series, along with a new gun warranty. And no concern about a "some-day" shortage of certain parts, like those in some of the pre-B safety assemblies. What's not to like about the Retro?

I don't do pre-B 75s any more, but WOULD buy a retro if I found one... along with a CZ-40B. (Had one of those and foolishly let it go, back when I didn't care for .40 S&W; I like it a bit better now. Had some 75Bs in .40, but like the 40B better!!)
 
About the only thing I don't like on my P01 is the rail. I never use it, but bought thinking I would. If I were to start from scratch, I'd start with the PCR instead, and save some girth on my carry gun.

Not a big deal though.

If I lived closer, I would trade you a PCR for your P01.
 
The RETRO model was a small run of special CZs, done 7-8 years ago (maybe earlier?).

They had the look of the original pre-B CZ-75, but internally were Model Bs. The differences: rounded trigger guard, spur hammer, different slide release (looking like the original). Sights were standard 75B, not like the older pre-Bs, which had a staked front sight and a different dovetail on the rear.

The model had the good looks of the 75, with the firing pin block and warranty of the 75B -- the best of both. Wish I had the money to get one when they were introduced.

CZ later did the RED STAR Commemorative, and sold a bunch of them, as well. (The commemorative was a standard 75B with a different roll mark on the slide (and maybe a set of different marks on the frame) using the red star and hammer & sickle. I found that ironic, since the CZ-75 was NEVER used by the Communist Block militaries [neither was the 9x19 round, upon which the 75 was based]; it was apparently designed for sale to the West, but the Western Embargo of most Communist Bloc goods hampered that.)

I doubt that either of these would have much in the way of "collectible" potential, but I would like to have a RETRO.
 
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The only thing that I don't like about the PCR is that it come from the factory with "rubber" grips. Only someone that hasn't carry before would but rubber grips on a conceal pistol...

Umm, not really. My P-01 is wearing factory rubber grips right now. No problems. Been carrying concealed since 1994, when our law went into effect, carried with partial covering garment before that, guns with plastic, rubber and wood grips. I understand what it is you're probably trying to say that sticky rubber grips can catch covering garments and give away the CCW pistol, but it isn't true, at least for me,( can't speak even for some people from Tennessee), but I haven't had that problem down here yet.
 
Agree.

When I carried a CZ-75 Compact, it had the factory soft-rubber grips, and it wasn't a problem. Nowadays, when I carry, it's either a Kel-Tec PF9 (with a Handall-type rubber wrap, or a Kahr CM9 with a similar wrap. I've had other guns with the rubber -- and the rubber was never a problem.

The poster's negative experience may be mix of his build, holster, and unique choice of clothes. Rubber grips need NOT be a problem.
 
I must be the only person around who is disappointed with their CZ. My 75BD Police shoots well, but has not been reliable enough. The trigger bar came loose after about 500 rounds and now the slide release lets go by itself every time I insert a magazine. Meh...
 
I must be the only person around who is disappointed with their CZ. My 75BD Police shoots well, but has not been reliable enough. The trigger bar came loose after about 500 rounds and now the slide release lets go by itself every time I insert a magazine. Meh...
CZ USA has excellent customer service. Give them a call, they will take care of it.

WRT rubber grip panels, my PCR still wears them and I've been carrying it since 2000 without issues.
 
sd790 said:
...trigger bar came loose after about 500 rounds and now the slide release lets go by itself every time I insert a magazine.

The trigger bar coming loose would have irritated me, but not the slide release allowing the slide to go forward with a firm mag insertion. That "unwanted" step speeds up the process and is very useful in competition, if predictable/consistent. (There is nothing UNSAFE about this extra functionality.) Some of my guns do that; I wish they all did.

Bending the slide stop retention spring might put some extra force on that part if you want it to go away. Or contact CZ-USA...
 
My CZ also releases the slide if I slam the magazine in, but not if I insert it normally. When I first noticed it I did some research and apparently its common on MANY pistols. It doesn't bother me any.
 
I've had this one for some time that I like very much.

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(The top photo shows the new night sights I put on it, the bottom the original sights.)

75D Compact PCR. This differs from the Compact mainly in having an aluminum frame and a decocker (lever shown in the bottom photo) instead of a manual safety. It is more related to the P-01, lacking that gun's accessory rail.
 
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The trigger bar coming loose would have irritated me, but not the slide release allowing the slide to go forward with a firm mag insertion. That "unwanted" step speeds up the process and is very useful in competition, if predictable/consistent. (There is nothing UNSAFE about this extra functionality.) Some of my guns do that; I wish they all did.

Bending the slide stop retention spring might put some extra force on that part if you want it to go away. Or contact CZ-USA...

My issue is that the behavior is different from any other pistol. I don't want to have to recognize whether or not the slide released on its own so that the muscle memory from repetition will be consistent no matter what I shoot. When the slide releases on its own, my brain has to register that fact and change the trained movements.

That's a good suggestion to contact CZ. Don't know why I haven't thought of that myself.
 
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My issue is that the behavior is different from any other pistol. I don't want to have to recognize whether or not the slide released on its own so that the muscle memory from repetition will be consistent no matter what I shoot. When the slide releases on its own, my brain has to register that fact and change the trained movements.

It's not really different "from any other pistol" -- just different from any other pistol you've owned or used. It is, in that sense, the "luck of the draw." I've had a number of Glocks that do that, and a couple of CZs. As I said, I wish I could make all of my guns behave that way.

That said, how does the slide releasing "automatically" with the mag insertion really change anything you'd do? Wouldn't you still simply press the slide release, if muscle memory conditioned you to do that? It's an intellectual problem for you -- because the gun doesn't behave as you expected it to -- but it is really not a functional or training (or practical) problem.

If it remains a concern, contact CZ-USA. As I suggested earlier, I suspect that simply bending the slide stop spring (you have to take it out to do it) might add some extra tension and keep the release from moving quite so easily. CZ-USA might suggest the same, or simply send you a new one (if you want to avoid shipping the gun off -- I would).

On the other hand, there may be CZ owners in your area who'd willingly swap your misbehaving CZ for their "proper" gun that doesn't behave in that manner.
 
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Since the OP likes .40 cal., he could keep an eye out for a CZ 40P or CZ40 B, as well. I have the 40P, and while it does have a reputation for being a bit more finicky than drop dead reliable 75b's, once you get the right ammo and mag, it will work just as well.

I mention this because a used CZ40 P (they don't make them anymore) will probably go for less money than a used CZ 75, yet, to my hands, is more comfortable because of rubber grips, alloy frame and smoother controls. Very accurate too. I paid more than necessary for my 40 P, but it's the best feeling semi-auto pistol I own. Good luck.
 
Jim NE said:
...I mention this because a used CZ40 P (they don't make them anymore) will probably go for less money than a used CZ 75, yet, to my hands, is more comfortable because of rubber grips, alloy fram and smoother controls. Very accurate too. I paid more than necessary for my 40 P, but it's the best feeling semi-auto pistol I own. Good luck.

Don't make them any more, and didn't make a lot of them in the first place. Their production seemed, to some of us, to be a way to use up a big inventory of 40B slides (probably made in anticipation of the Colt deal that fell through.)

In some respects, the 40P should be outstanding: P-01 frame (with modifications) and a 40B slide. The problem is that unlike the rest of the CZ metal-framed line, the Kadet Kit won't work on the 40P frame. (CZ modified the standard P-01 frame so that you can't use a P-01 slide; only the 40B slide works on that modified frame.)

If you can live with those (minor) shortcomings, you might find you like the 40P a lot. They'll accept both the standard "compact" mags and the full-size 75B mags, which can give you some extra rounds. (There are also some special spacers floating around that make the full-size mags look like an extension of the 40P grip.)

If you can find one, you could do worse.
 
I third the vote for the CZ40P. Mine is the softest shooting .40S&W I own and I believe it's due to the low bore axis. It is also my most accurate as well. It is, in a sense, a PCR in .40S&W because it has the alloy, compact frame like the PCR. Side-by-side they are hard to tell apart.

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I third the vote for the CZ40P. Mine is the softest shooting .40S&W I own and I believe it's due to the low bore axis. It is also my most accurate as well. It is, in a sense, a PCR in .40S&W because it has the alloy, compact frame like the PCR. Side-by-side they are hard to tell apart.

More like the P01 than a PCR since it has a rail.
 
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