That M16 at the beginning of the movie "Sniper"

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99% of the pistols in the USMC inventory are M9 Berettas. Every 1911 they still have in service could probably fit into the back of an average sized pick up truck and still leave room for a cooler of beer . . .
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So, if I bring up a buddy's extended-bed dually, you think they'd be willing to part with them? :D

Honestly, how many 1911's does the USMC have in its inventory? Serious question, I don't know.

I liked shooter. There were some piddly things (like looking through the scope in the beginning--what power was that thing, 100x?), but overall it was a decent movie. Have it on DVD, actually. I might watch it right about now, actually. Mmmmmm, weapons galore.

Never saw "sniper" or "titanic". Heard from the girlfriend that titanic was a colossal waste of time, and I've heard that in...I think it was sniper, you see a round being fired, and the casing is still attached to the bullet after it leaves the barrel... And, this girlfriend is willing to endure my firearms talk during movies--I think I got lucky :D
 
In the book that the movie "Shooter" was based on he cut the firing pin and welded it back together leaving it just a bit too short to fire a round.
 
As far as the firing pin, I was under the impression that he had removed the firing pins before leaving. I'm not sure how he did these things. I know that you can remove the pin on an M-16 and still assemble the rifle minus the pin. I'm guessing the same is possible on most firearms.
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See, I didn't get that he had removed the pins. That's easy enough to do. I was under the impression fom what I saw/heard that he had adjusted them to be just short enough to not strike the primers. However, that seems like a lot of work -- me, I just pull bolts/op-rods/barrel assemblies and lock them up separately in a completely non-obvious location. Of course, I'm not about to get set up by Uncle Sugar as a fall guy for an assassination any time soon, either.
 
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watching some SNIPER movie on Spike tv now, i think its Sniper 2


toms partner was just captured. so he meets up with his contact and she gives him an old rifle that her grandparents used to fight the nazis. and parents the communist etc.

he picks up what is obviously a Mosin Nagant and says something like . 7.9 mm mauser, an antique but the finest rifle the Germans ever made.

99% of the pistols in the USMC inventory are M9 Berettas. Every 1911 they still have in service could probably fit into the back of an average sized pick up truck and still leave room for a cooler of beer . . .
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that has what to do with my point? my point is other pistols exist with in special operations, even the corp.
 
Sniper with Tom Berenger? and that AWESOME scope shot?

I didn't see Shooter (mostly because anti Mark Wahlberg was in it), and now because of that movie I have no desire for a Chey-Tec.(That and I want a gun I can buy ammo for 10 years from now)
 
I saw that one of the cable channels was airing Sniper 3 starring Tom Berringer today. I didn't have the stomach to watch it. 3 implies that there was also a 2. Anybody know how they get around him having his trigger finger cut off towards the end of the first one?
 
IIRC, in Shooter he replaced the firing pins with shorter ones. I can't see why it wouldn't work. File the end of a replacement pin until it's too short to fire a round and swap it in for the good one. I might just be uneducated but why wouldn't it work?

Sniper would have been better if they had just kept some of the retardedness out of it.
The one place where they hear the AK firing and Zane says he recognizes the "hammer recoil"... What the hell is that?
If he had said "I recgonize the report" it would have been believable because most of us know what an AK sounds like.

Sniper 2 would have been a whole lot better IMO if Berenger hadn't mistaken a Mosin for a Mauser. It would have only taken one line being changed to be correct.

But most people wouldn't know the difference I guess.
 
IIRC, in Shooter he replaced the firing pins with shorter ones. I can't see why it wouldn't work. File the end of a replacement pin until it's too short to fire a round and swap it in for the good one. I might just be uneducated but why wouldn't it work?
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I don't think the question is so much, "will it work?" as it is, "why even bother?"
 
goon said:
IIRC, in Shooter he replaced the firing pins with shorter ones. I can't see why it wouldn't work. File the end of a replacement pin until it's too short to fire a round and swap it in for the good one. I might just be uneducated but why wouldn't it work?
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Y'all need to read carefully. My point was that the character made out like he had adjusted them to be too short. Adjustment would mean that firing pins are adjustable for length within the bolt of whatever they're in, which just isn't the case in almost everything I can think of. They don't screw in and screw out like they're threaded.

Yes, the character could have filed them so that they were too short to reach, but like "Rule556" observes just above, "why even bother?"
 
You guys must really be bored, so what kind of firing pin did the Titanic have?
 
You guys must really be bored, so what kind of firing pin did the Titanic have?
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.50 BMG, of course.

I thought all the Sniper movies sucked. Not just for lack of technical accuracy, but just for pure lack of credible story line. My wife actually gave up on watching shoot-em-up movies with me for almost a year because of all the bitching I did about the first one.

I thought Shooter was okay. Almost all of it was just not believable, but the action was decent enough to make me ignore all the crap. One part that still hacks me off is also that Spam can scene. He's shooting at a can of spam from... how far? Over a 1000 yards, IIRC, and yet his scope is dialed up so far that the Spam can fills nearly the entire view. Yeah. Right. And not a single wobble in the crosshairs, either. Quite the bench rest...
 
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I don't know about the M1, but it isn't particularly difficult to switch firing pins on an AR.
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Really. Getting the pin out of the BCG is like basic, basic maintenance, a no-sweat chore that everyone who has an AR should be able to do.

Right?

*crickets chirping*
 
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Y'all need to read carefully. My point was that the character made out like he had adjusted them to be too short. Adjustment would mean that firing pins are adjustable for length within the bolt of whatever they're in, which just isn't the case in almost everything I can think of. They don't screw in and screw out like they're threaded.

Yes, the character could have filed them so that they were too short to reach, but like "Rule556" observes just above, "why even bother?"
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I seem to remember that he said he switched out the firing pins on all of his firearms prior to putting them away after shooting, for shorter ones, and "you would need a micrometer to tell the difference".

His point was clear to me at least. It wasn't some sort of adjustable firing pin, it was an entirely different pin, shorter so it wouldn't strike the primer.

As for why?

1. It's a movie, does it really need to make sense.

2. He is a paranoid gun nut living in the hills.

3. He had already dealt with unscrupulous government entities prior.

4. Did I mention he was paranoid (justly)?
 
I thought in shooter he said he had swapped the pins out.
IIRC, he said you'd need a micrometer to tell the difference.
But it has been a little while since I saw it.
 
The book is so much better than the movie. "Sudden Impact" I think it's by Stephen Hunter read it and some of the things he did makes better sense, But I liked the movie.
 
I don't think the question is so much, "will it work?" as it is, "why even bother?"
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Because he's an anti-government, disgruntled former sniper and his tinfoil hat said someone was going to set him up so he changed out his firing pins to cover his behind in case they decided to take one of his guns and frame him.
 
Frankly, if they were going to be that thorough, they would have had an armorer check his stick out in the first place.
 
Honestly, how many 1911's does the USMC have in its inventory? Serious question, I don't know.
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I can tell you this much. I was in from 92-99. I did so many field ops and joint task forces it wasn't funny. I crewed an amphibious assault vehicle. I carry grunts. Lots of em. Each time it's a different unit. Regular grunts, Recon, engineers, you name it.

I did two deployments. My first one had a Seal Team with us. (I want to say it was 2, but I don't remember) The second one was a MEU SOC. On the second one, after the op to rescue Capt. Scott O'Grady, we had a MEU wide weapons inventory. All the MEUs weapons were brought to the maintenance bay of the LPD. I remember this vividly because I flew over from our LSD with our platoons weapons on a CH-41 and that was the first time I was ever in a helo (and swore it would be my last).

My last duty station had me right across the street from 3rd Recon.

I remember while going to the rifle range while station at Lejeune, at 0-dark-thirty, seeing those Special Operations Group goofballs running in full MOP gear complete with gas masks and they were 5 miles from the range where their barracks were.

And I never saw one single 1911.

Not one.
 
The book is so much better than the movie. "Sudden Impact" I think it's by Stephen Hunter read it and some of the things he did makes better sense, But I liked the movie.
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Ummmm. The title was Point of IMpact, and yes it was by Stephen Hunter. Sudden Impact was an Eastwood flick. Sudden Death was a horrid Van Damm flick in an ice rink.
 
Just a side note; I would highly recommend that no one actually try to assembly an AR with the firing pin removed. The firing pin, of course, keeps the cam pin from rotating, and I've heard that if you assemble a BCG without the firing pin and then put it into battery in the upper, there is nothing keeping the cam pin from rotating in a direction it is not supposed to rotate, leading to the inability of the cam pin to cam out of its notch, thus locking up your upper real good.

Luckliy I don't know from personal experience.
 
For the OP, here's the only pic I could find:

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Looks like a standard M4 with an aimpoint or something on top.
 
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