The 642 club

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I've taken a bit of a short cut this time, thanks in part to you experts on here and in part to being at the right place at the right time. I have 1,000 rounds of Speer +P 135 GDHP's inbound and it looks as if my sporadic ammo buying is over for the time being. It will be nice to be able to train with what I carry, as GDHP's are generally too expensive to do that.

It'd be nice if I could afford to buy that many Speer 135 +P GDHP's, but alas, I can't :( . However, once I am comfortable with reloading, I may post a question over in the handloading forum and ask for recipees that duplicate the 135 +P Speers, the Remmington FBI Load, the Corbon DPX, etc.

As promised, here are some pictures of my reloading bench setup, with a Lee Classic 4-hole Turret Press. I got it set up today and loaded my first 20 rounds of 38 special, using 3.2 grains of Winchester 231 (near minimum load):

- 10 148 grain double end wadcutters (cast)
- 10 158 grain round nose flat points (cast)

What a crapload of fun! I can see why people say handloading often becomes a hobby in and of itself.

As you can see in the first shot, the space for a reloading bench was fairly limited:

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The steel shelving in the corner is capable of carrying 3,000 lbs. So I leveled it and ancored it to the wall using 1" diameter pipe brackets attached to 2 x 4s, which themselves are screwed into the studs using 3 3/4 wood screws. That sucker don't move! The bench surface is 3/4" plywood (sufficient for the task) already covered in laminate (old countertops from my parents' house, score!). The counter top is lag bolted to the steel shelf under it using large steel washers. So far, the bench is proving to be incredibly strong.

Excuse the paint cans, they are getting hauled off to the recycling center tomorrow.

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jad0110 - Looks like you are off to a great start, Good thing that bench is rated for some weight, bet it is full of equipment and supplies before you know it!! We're waiting to hear how those reloads work out. Good luck.
 
Nice setup Jad! All I could arrange is my press and powder measure C-clamped to a Black & Decker workmate in the dining room (my wife really loves that!) You have a good place to store bullets underneath your bench and you could store powder above. More than one powder container on the bench at a time is a very dangerous situation. Never mix powders and if you do it by accident, don't use. I'm sure you'll have lots of fun in the future by that bench. It really is addicting. I love reloading and watching others shoot what I make just as much as shooting myself.
 
Has anyone had any experience with K & D holsters out of Florida? Their Pocket Defender for the 642 looks great, and you can get 'em with skins also! Post some pics if you have this little holster. :)
 
KillshotRB: I have the K&D w/skin, albeit for my .380 P3AT. It is nice but I prefer the Mika holster for the 642 for a variety of reasons. #1. The Mika holster stays in your pocket whereas the K&D does not. #2. Weapon draws smoothly...and much, much quicker out of Mika than the K&d. #3. K&D...even with the skin is leather and absorbs moisture whereas the Mika does not. #4. Mika fills the pocket but does not print...like the K&D can. #5. I can buy 5 Mika holsters for the price of one K&D and he ships it out within the week...I waited three months for my pretty K&D.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=3052312&postcount=10

Also, reference my previous post on the Crimson Trace LG-105. I took it to the range Saturday (darn digital media card became corrupted and I lost all photos on it:fire: ), thus, I do not have any pics at this time. I can say this now: I love the laser grip! Initially, after opening the CT box, I thought the poly (plastic) grip looked relatively cheap compared to the stock rubber boot grip, however, after replacing them, I thought they fit my hands much more comfortably. They are thinner and my grip was stronger and I felt little recoil with these plastic grips. Again, I love them. I stand 5'8" tall, with very small hands...same size as my wife's hands...so, taller/bigger guys w/larger hands might have different experience. After adjusting the laser to my point of aim, I literally put all shot groups inside a ten ring at 7 yards consistently. I was truly amazed at the accuracy. I shot slow fire from a bench. Next week...with a new digital media card, I will revisit the range and photo quick - point shooting after drawing the weapon from holster to see results. My technique is to draw the weapon, thrust/point the weapon at the target, fire one round and then acquire the laser dot and follow thorugh with four more shots.
 
Going once, going twice ...

The more I research ammunition, lately it seems I always end up finding CorBon DPX being highly rated and recommended by those who should know and people who's advice has served me well in the past. I found these test results by John Farnam to be especially relevant to our search for a superior 642 round.

Repost of a Quote posted by Preacherman
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost....78&postcount=1
Very interesting, JT.

OK, let's double check one last time before I put up the poll (probably Tuesday).

Here are the ammo poll items.

I'm going to describe the poll as "What SD rnds do you use in your .38 spl snubbie?"

OK?

Speak now, or forever hold your piece. :evil:

* 80 gr. Glaser Safety Slug
* 110 gr. Cor-Bon DPX +P
* 110 gr. Federal Low Recoil HS/JHP
* 125 gr. Remington Golden Saber +P
* 125 gr. Speer Gold Dots +P
* 125 gr. Winchester JHP +P
* 129 gr. Federal Hydra-shok JHP +P
* 135 gr. Speer Gold Dot +P
* 148 gr. Federal Gold Medal Match full wadcutter
* 150gr. Buffalo Bore hard cast wad cutter
* 158 gr. Buffalo Bore FBI +P
* 158 gr. LSWCHP FBI +P (specify brand in post below)
* 158 gr. Magtech Semi Jacketed Hollow Point (SJHP) +P
* 158 gr. Speer TMJ +P
* Home brew reloads (specify by posting below)
 
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jad0110: I can't wait to hear the conversations with the neighbors this summer. "Whatcha doin', jad?"

"Loading up a fresh batch of ammo."

"Uhh, :what: , seeya later...."

:D

PM MassMark if you're interested in a killer deal on a case of GDHP. They're surprisingly affordable. He posted about it a few days back, and I got in on the deal, too.

DawgFvr: sounds great. I look forward to the pics.

It's range day for me... I just need to decide: bullseye slowfire, defensive training, or both? We'll see what my mood is. I try to mix it up in my twice-weekly range sessions with my carry guns, as I find "bullseye" helps my trigger control across the board, and defensive training of course speaks for itself.
 
Thanks for all the compliments!

Brassman,

I could store stuff underneath once I get rid of those paint cans. And just visible in the first photo is a cabinent I installed up on the wall where I keep my lone powder can (W231) and other reloading tools (beam scale, digital calipers, weight check, kinetic bullet puller, magnifying glass, etc...). I do keep the primers inside where it is cool and dry however.

Don't worry, when I get into other powders for loading 357 Mag, I'll definitely only keep one powder can (and one set of brass, bullets, primers, etc out at a time). Not much extra space to keep unnecessary crap out anyway.

loplop,

I've already decided what I'll say: "Whatchya doin their Big John??? That a drill press?"

me: "Nah, just an ammunition factory, that's all :D :p ."

fiVe,

I reload from used brass that I've been collecting for months. The milk jug catches the spent primer when it is punched out of the case by the first reloading die. It's the die with the dark gray colored top cap with the little nipple sticking up. All-in-all, a ton of fun that is already addicting.

I'll be taking my new handloads to the range right now to see how they work. See yall later!
 
Awesome...

One of these days, I'm going to jump into reloading. Been saying that for years. With the wife 2 semesters away from graduating her RM program, I may just have time to set up and do it...Thanks for the inspiration.

In the meantime, if anyone's interested in Speer GDHP 135 +P for about $230.00 for 1,000 rounds ( not including shipping). Please let me know soon. It's a legitimate deal, from a legitimate dealer, (great net rep) and I won't post the info in open forums, (don't want him inundated). I ask that if I give you the info that you do the same. There's a small hoop to jump through, (joining another forum), but he's a top shelf guy and has been a pleasure to deal with. I'm not sure that his supply is infinite, so this deal won't last long. Take care and happy shooting..
 
DawgFvr,

Thanks for the report on the K & D holster. They have a great little IWB for the 642 as well, and it's super small. They said that they're 8-10 weeks out for delivery already and offer a whole host of different types of "skin". Pretty neat looking rigs. Check this link for a pic of this set-up..


The only thing that I see right away is that it doesn't cover the trigger guard all the way, and I'm not sure if Crimson Trace 405's would clear the holster..

;)
 
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Hey, I wonder if we can shoot 198's in the 642?

Maybe, but I bet you'd only do it once! :evil:

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Nothing is as scary as firing your very first handload :eek: . I know I did everything right, but still. I kinda cringed with the first shot. Good news: my 686 didn't explode! Yehaw. Everything went perfectly! Actually, my groups were a bit better with my own loads compared to factory. Now I'll tweak the charge for my first two chosen loads and start cranken them out. This is going to be a great second hobby that is going to be just as fun (if not more so) than my first. I may reduce the wadcutter charge a little for my 642.
 
stevep - You are most welcome here. It would appear you are very qualified for membership with what looks like a 642 + a pair of 442's and all the right gear. How many do you carry at one time? What's your ammo choice?
 
Jad

The first rounds I reloaded were 38sp. BBWC for my 642 about 3 years ago now. The first time I took them to the range I know the range officer thought I was nuts. I shot them around a baracade and held my left hand up across my face just in case something bad happened. Well, nothing bad did happen and I've loved reloading ever since that first time. I hope you have many more experiences of pride and joy as you drive down the road of creating your own fodder for many other weapons.

I don't ever give recipes, but 3.4gr. of W231 is perfect for 148gr BBWC's in my 642. I use them, my wife uses them, and my mother uses them, as well as anyone who asks to shoot some of my most used practice stuff.
 
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Carry load in snubby

125 grain Speer Gold Dot, standard pressure (not +P). I use this in my Detective Special, as well as in my 642.
 
I don't ever give recipes, but 3.4gr. of W231 is perfect for 148gr BBWC's in my 642. I use them, my wife uses them, and my mother uses them, as well as anyone who asks to shoot some of my most used practice stuff.

Yeah man, I was wincing :p when I pulled the trigger on the first round, a 158 RNFP being pushed by 3.2 grains of W231. All was well, and it was pure joy and excitement after that.

I'll probably stick to 3.2 grains and see how my 642 does with that, then go from there.
 
Harry Paget Flashman - I'm sure it will get your attention with +P, but hey, it's rated +P so might as well give it a shot (haha) and see for yourself. Let us know how what you think. How is the control with regular .38 special?
 
UC comfort Shirt

After lurking for a while you all talked me into it. Picked up my 642-CT yesterday. My neighbor and I both purchased at the same time. Looking forward to heading to the range this weekend but with the NRA show in town, I am not sure I will have the time.

I have a quick question if ya'll don't mind. I saw a post about the UC comfort Concealment t-Shirt but I cannot find it again. I also googled it and found nothing. Any help?

Thanks
 
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