The Aurora shooting you didn't hear about.

[FireInCairo]

You didn't hear about it because it was thwarted by someone carrying their concealed weapon:

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/cr...dAimWc.like&fb_source=home_multiline&start=10

 

[hso]

Other than the same city this isn't any different from any of the other stories about citizens carrying and stopping violent crimes.

Remember that the scale and circumstances play a huge role in the attention an incident receives in the news so there's little surprise when some disgruntled employee/lover shows up and is stopped by someone else.

It is up to us to look for stories in the news where someone intervenes and stops a violent crime.

 

[X-Rap]

It is odd or more like revealing when the media and politicians go wall to wall on a shooting like this but hardly report on the tragedy with the illegals in Texas that hit a tree and more were killed than in Aurora.
I haven't seen Mayor Bloomberg in front of the camera encouraging a Border Patrol strike until we can ensure safety and security on the border.

 

[SunnySlopes]

I haven't seen Mayor Bloomberg in front of the camera encouraging a Border Patrol strike until we can ensure safety and security on the border.
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Ah, it's all about agenda. The more porous the borders, the more votes for the politicians who enable such a thing. That's why they'll never, ever, deal with it decisively.

And, that's currently the case with gun control. It has to fit their agenda. Back when it was popular to denounce guns, politicians were denouncing guns. But now that so many Americans realize what's at stake, politicians are strangely silent.

It's all about agenda.

 

[CoRoMo]

The comparison between these two shootings; this article needs to be used in all the network news roundtable discussions and cable news debates.

 

[Skribs]

I can't get to the article from work. Brief summary please about what was stopped?

 

[MtnCreek]

Are there any laws in CO regarding carry in Church?

The shooter in the case was a just released convicted felon. Did this felon not know that federal law prevents him from having a gun ???

 

[MtnCreek]

I can't get to the article from work. Brief summary please about what was stopped?

In April, a freshly released convicted felon shoots a person in a Church. Another person at the Church shoots the felon. The rest of the article was a comparison between the shootings with a lot of focus on ‘gun free zones’.

 

[CoRoMo]

Are there any laws in CO regarding carry in Church?

Nope.

Additionally, gun-buster signs do not carry the force of law.

 

[Skribs]

Was there indication that this felon was going on a mass shooting spree or was he targeting a specific parishioner?

 

[basicblur]

Here's an article you might want to send to your friends - I've actually had a few appear to change their minds after the recent shooting and reading the article.
Lethal Force: Are You Prepared For An Armed Invasion?

Note the incident in paragraph 3 - a letter was recovered indicating the BG's intent was mass murder.

On a recent podcast, the host (on a nationally syndicated gun show) was talking with someone in the media and asking why incidents like the recent Florida Internet Cafe don't get more media coverage. He was told by some in the media that stories such as that are not widely covered since they're worried 'bout a copycat incident.

HUH?

They're worried 'bout giving someone like the 71-yr old foiling a robbery (and who knows what else) coverage, yet the media gives 24/7 coverage to the Aurora massacre?

This is the topsy turvey world we live in... :banghead:

 

[X-Rap]

Good article but even this pro gun reporter seems to claim to know things that aren't fact or at least don't follow what has been widely stated so far.
Who can we believe?
Did he have all 4 guns in the theater?
Did he reload or just transition to a different gun?
What exactly is SWAT gear?
Chest and leg protectors?
I wish we could have a source that actually reported and explained rather than sensationalized every aspect of the news.

 

[hso]

http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4...-lake-city-smiths/NDNrL1gxeE2rsRhrWCM9dQ.cspx

This is more applicable as a comparison. There's no relationship between the attacker and the victims, it occurs in a public retail establishment, there are multiple random victims, and the attack stops without a shot fired by the citizen carrying.

 

[Godsgunman]

Great article hso! Unfortunately I guess we're gonna have to start an anti-knife campaign because obviously we can't let these knife loving psychos run amuck. Take away their right to eat steaks and pork chops with cutlery and all our problems are solved! We will have a safe and peaceful society then. Or so our oh so intelligent lefties would have us think

 

[X-Rap]

More proof that you never know when or where the need may arise, what a shock to have someone start randomly stabing in a supermarket. Church, theater, resturant, gas station when it comes we better be ready.

 

[hso]

I think we should stay away from CCW success stories where there is a relationship between the shooter and just one person. If it is a business where multiple people are being shot and the CCW stops the shooting, fine, but the best stories we can tell are of CCW stopping a random violent person threatening or harming people not involved with them. We want to demonstrate that CCW not only stops the one on one violence, but random mass violence.

 

[berettaprofessor]

Are there any laws in CO regarding carry in Church?

How soon we forget....everyone here seems to be forgetting the New Life Church incident in Colorado Springs on 12/9/2007, when a gunman opened fire, hitting 4 people and killing 2. Jeanne Assam, a church "security volunteer" shot and wounded the gunman, Matthew Murray, who then killed himself.

Jeanne Assam was honored by a Colorado State Senate resolution on 4/17/2008.

 

[Yelovitz_503]

Additionally, gun-buster signs do not carry the force of law.

I'm not familiar with this term. I know if a business posts no weapons I can't bring my CCW in there but what are gun-buster signs? Are they some third party going around putting up signs that just say 'no guns'? Can someone clarify this?

Did he have all 4 guns in the theater?
Did he reload or just transition to a different gun?
What exactly is SWAT gear?
Chest and leg protectors?
I wish we could have a source that actually reported and explained rather than sensationalized every aspect of the news.

I agree, I've heard any number of things about what the shooter was actually using, anywhere from 100 round drum magazines to just long 40 rounders. I wish that things like this didn't often come hand in hand with people who know nothing about guns trying to drop technicals and specifications to people like us. I'm not hating on them but it's hard enough to have a reasonable, level headed conversation with these folks without them trying to drop science.

The incident in Aurora is deplorable, and disgusting. Thank goodness the shooter wasn't using a full auto, and that he didn't bring any of those bombs from his apartment. I'm in awe of how heartless an action this is, it's so horrible it's hard to imagine.

EDIT: I just wanted to add that even if movie theaters in CO allowed carry, I don't think anyone should have taken a shot at the shooter. If it were me I wouldn't have done it in a million years for fear that I would hit an innocent party. The confusion, density of the crowd, adrenaline, and lack of visibility would mean any shot had a high probability of hitting the wrong person; at that point as far as anyone else in there knows, you're just the second shooter. I know threads have been closed relating to the issue I discuss here at the end but I wanted to put it out there.

 

[bluethunder1962]

It is so sad how screwed up this world is that you have to carry guns to church. I hate for anybody to be killed and much more when it is at church but it is good there was somebody with a gun there to stop him.

 

[MedWheeler]

Last night in my city, a former Marine fired two rounds at one of four thugs that accosted him and his wife in the wee hours of the morning. All involved were leaving a theater after a late showing of The Dark Night Rises (or whatever it's called.) Apparently, the "youths" had already been warned after disruptive behavior in the theater. After they left, at least one tried to re-enter to retrieve a forgotten cellphone. The Marine and his wife were evidently in his way. The wife was shoved, the Marine punched in the face, and the suspect's friends came to join. At that time, the male victim drew his lawfully-carried weapon and fired. Neither shot connected, but one was close, leaving a hole in the suspect's hat. All fled, but a vehicle was stopped and four arrests were made.