nofendertom
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shoebox1.1 --- Are those ports on both sides of the barrel ?
The best for EDC revolver ever?
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I am not shoebox, but, yes. That porting pattern pattern is along both sides of the barrel. Gemini does porting along the top center, and, along both sides, as shown in the posted images. If I recall correctly, night front sights and the top-center porting are not really compatible, because too much carbon/soot gets on the front sight, so, if the customer requests a front tritium sight, the porting will be done along the sides.
I have two Gemini Customized SP101 revolvers, one with each type of porting. I did not deal with Gemini, myself, because I bought them pre-owned, already customized.
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Thanks shoebox1.1 and Rexster for the info.
I'm a civilian now and regularly carry a M-60, 3" bbl'd Smith that's been 100% reliable and accurate in my hands. It fits my life and needs to perfection...I'd vote it "Best" for my use, but maybe others might find it lacking for their circumstances. Were I still active duty military or an LEO, my needs would include more capacity.
Here are my thoughts on the M-60 as a perfect for me CC choice: SS frame for weight, to mitigate recoil; 5-shots = enough for me & my family's lifestyle; good stocks (Hogue Monogrips for recoil absorption which make for enjoyable practice sessions); outstanding accuracy the result of fully adjustable sights that give me ~1" groups to ~15 yds; and finally, an overall size that's OWB concealable yet superbly comfortable in the firing hand.
YMMv, but this'll do for me. Rod
Here are my thoughts on the M-60 as a perfect for me CC choice: SS frame for weight, to mitigate recoil; 5-shots = enough for me & my family's lifestyle; good stocks (Hogue Monogrips for recoil absorption which make for enjoyable practice sessions); outstanding accuracy the result of fully adjustable sights that give me ~1" groups to ~15 yds; and finally, an overall size that's OWB concealable yet superbly comfortable in the firing hand.
YMMv, but this'll do for me. Rod
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My carry gun needs have changed after retiring from the PD and moving to Idaho. But, my carry gun is my custom 3" model 10. IWB, OWB or even in my pants pocket like I did this weekend.I've had J frame 38's, Charter Arms 38's and a S&W 2" model 15-3. This 3" model 10 is my go to carry gun. Full size yet concealable.
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Choosing my "best" EDC comes down to a balance between weight, caliber, concealability and most importantly how well I shoot it. I also prefer fixed sight revolvers for carry. I don't shoot my SP 2.25" well YET so no go there. If 38+P is enough my 3" Model 64-5 or Model 10 4" will do fine as they carry well and I shoot them well. But my 2 3/4" Speed Six 357 Mag has got all the bases covered. It reminds me of a S&W Model 66 with fixed sights.
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Did they? The 20-50's was well before my time. S&W was a big player with the Model 27/28 and nearly every rent-a-cop on the planet has been issued a Model 10/64. Reloading, fast while under pressure, has rarely been a big part of police training in my experience.
I come at this from a much more recent user point of view. S&W dominates double action revolvers now (vying with Ruger for that top spot) and has always dominated the revolver division of all the major practical shooting sports (USPSA, IDPA) and that is in part due to the cylinder release (and fast trigger reset). It's a whole lot easier to hit the fast reloads with a forward moving cylinder release than a rear-ward moving release. After tens of thousand of rounds down range in competition, reloading on the clock, it would be foolish for me to carry a CCW revolver that did not take advantage of all that training and muscle memory. Can the Colt be used successfully for CCW/Duty sure, history proves that. But can you reload a Colt as fast as a S&W? History again shows that very few user can, hence the S&W dominance of USPSA and IDPA sports were reload time directly effects you score.
Finally I am a self avowed Colt hater both as a company and their revolvers in specific but I don't expect everyone to do the same. It sort of a running joke with me....
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Colt was only dethroned in the '60s, and most of that was due to price.
For you that makes sense, for we Colt shooters we get confused with the forward release.
At least give them points for not having the awful lock. I have to say I recently bought a S&W 19 (older model of course) that is pretty impressive.
And yes I concur the original Cobra is the ultimate carry gun.
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You can get a lock plug to replace the lock.
I wonder why nobody has come up with a cylinder release that covers the lock.
I wonder why nobody has come up with a cylinder release that covers the lock.
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Ask and you shall receive.
https://tromix.com/product/smith-wesson-extended-cylinder-release-latch/
The lock has never bothered me personally. Too easy to remove if you're worried about it. I would prefer my S&W's without but if I find a revolver configured the way I want and it has a lock, the lock does not stop me from buying it.
My S&W with the third highest round count of my collection has the lock and its been a non-issue after thousand and thousand of rounds fired in competition.
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WOW !!! That didn't take long !
Thank you mcb.
I just might have to look into one of them for my non-lock S&W.
Thank you mcb.
I just might have to look into one of them for my non-lock S&W.
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Which is why we have discussions concerning what factors to consider about the subject. Opinions and reasons for same are always interesting to hear and often helpful for those that keep an open mind.
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The Speed Six may well be the best snubby 357 ever manufactured. It certainly didn’t suffer the cracked forcing cone issues that plagued the M19.
Which wouldn't negate the possibility of spontaneous lockup, which has happened.
mcb
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Actually it does, There are only three parts and a spring that make up the internal lock. All of those parts are removed when the hole is plugged. There is no way a lock up is caused by the lock once it's removed and plugged. The lock up would be caused by something else.
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I agree I don't like the lock, but at the same time the company that created the lock now owns S&W so the likelihood of it going away is very low. And my use cases pushes me towards S&W. Colt does not making anything that is competitive in USPSA and I have far more trigger time there than all my CCW training so I shoot a S&W in competition and carry a S&W too. At least you can still get new J-frames without the lock.
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I can think of attributes I would trade for the low weight of my Cobra. I would prefer mooncliped, top break, and with at least a tritium front sight in return for an all steel heavier construction. Carrying a dense but compact handgun never bothered me.
That said, the old school Cobra is a pretty hard package to beat even now in 2023.
That said, the old school Cobra is a pretty hard package to beat even now in 2023.
I can see that for your needs, but most shooters don't compete or have huge round counts, expecially with a carry gun which is the subject of this thread.
I do have to say I recently bought an older pre-lock M19 that I prefer to an older Python I used to own, at least after the local gunsmith fixed a timing issue with the M19, lol. Great trigger, accurate and better grips than the Python, which you sort of had to be an orangatang to like.
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