The "Best" Semiautomatic for Concealed Carry

Status
Not open for further replies.
I too have an LCP MAX, which is always in a good holster.

I prefer no manual safety
A pistol with a grip safety requires not additional operation to make it ready.

The EZ 9 goes onto a table at the end of the day. The grip safety provides a bit of additional risk reduction during holstering, but I also like the security it would provide should someone knock the gun off the table and automatically reach out to catch it.
 
When I said that I do not want anything too small and compact, I was referring to an adequate grip, a reasonable sight radius, and a mass and CG combination that controls recoil in a manner that facilitates rapid shooting with combat accuracy. When I first chose a defensive handgun I had no appreciation whatsoever of the importance of rapid controlled fire in a defensive encounter.

If one observes a training session with a lot of students and some variety among forearms, one will quickly realize that full-size service pistols do shoot better.

Then we consider all day carry, and we enter the world of compromise. The trick is to find our Goldilocks gun.
 
I look at it this way. The desirable characteristics of a carry piece, in order, are:

1. Reliability. It's got to go bang! every time you pull the trigger.
2. Shootability. Given that it went bang! did you hit with it?
3. Power. Given that it went bang! and you got a hit, did it do the job?
4. Capacity. Given that it went bang! and you got a hit, it did the job, how many more times can you do it?
5. Carryability and concealability. Can you carry it all day and nobody notices it?

The winner is the M1911.
 
I’ve carried lots of different autos over the decades, but when I bought a used Glock G26, I decided it was my ultimate carry pistol.
What convinced me was that I had carried various Browning HiPowers for a long time, and considered it my favorite 9mm. When I shot the G26 the first time, I found I shot it as well as, or better than the HiPower…all with a big reduction in weight and size. None of the micro nines attract me at all. I can easily slip the G26 in my belt and conceal it under a Tshirt…even with a G19 mag and grip extender. For me, pocket carry can’t really get much bigger than the P32 that fills that role today. Even the Beretta 21a felt a little fat in my pocket.
 
I look at it this way. The desirable characteristics of a carry piece, in order, are:

1. Reliability. It's got to go bang! every time you pull the trigger.
2. Shootability. Given that it went bang! did you hit with it?
3. Power. Given that it went bang! and you got a hit, did it do the job?
4. Capacity. Given that it went bang! and you got a hit, it did the job, how many more times can you do it?
5. Carryability and concealability. Can you carry it all day and nobody notices it?

I would edit No. 2: How quickly can you hit with it.

No. 5 is fine, as long as it is understood that "nobody" inludes the carrier.

The winner is the M1911.
Having carried a steel Officer's Model clone for some time, I have to disagree.
 
I think Vern covered it pretty well.

No argument with the "edit" for No. 2, and Ill add "instinctively repetitive" to it.

Not sure I understand the No. 5 edit comment. Are you referring to the carrier being the issue with the comment?

I wouldnt have a problem with the 1911 choice either, I carried one longer than anything else so far. The only reason I no longer do, have been issues with No.1 and No. 4. These days, guns of a similar size solve those issues, and even reduce the weight, not that that was an issue.

Im one that believes the full sized guns tend to be best at "hitting all the numbers", and are the best choice, and I still carry one today. I havent had to "compromise", at least as of yet. Im still in pretty good shape and, knock on wood, dont have any health or body degradation issues that might warrant that. That could all easily change in the future, but Ill deal with that if and when it happens.

Beyond that, in 99% of cases, I think its still a matter of want vs cant when it comes to carrying the gun. If you want to do it, youll figure out a way. Its really not hard at all. These days, with the plethora of holster types and gear available, theres really no excuse, or "cant" about it in that respect.

If and when youre unlucky enough to need it, you need whats going to give you the best chance, not what is the easiest to carry.
 
My carry lineup hasn't changed in years. Shield .40 gets the most holster time, followed by my Beretta PX4 full-size in 9mm. My woods gun has been a USP full-size in .45 for almost 20 years.

I've been tempted to change the Shield to 9mm, but when my buddy moved to the Czech Republic he gifted me so much .40 that I haven't felt the need yet.
 
I have to be able to carry it comfortably all day.
If only 1% have back issues....
My point was, if you dont have some sort of debilitating problems, "cant" really isnt an excuse. Im not saying you have to either, but if you "want" to, its not an issue.
 
Mine is not really on the market.

For a 9mm based platform, key features would include:

- Poly or Al frame.

- DA/SA (w/ decocker- like the HK button) or DAO operation. User switchable like the Browning BDM's screw would be a positive.

- standard trigger motion based firing-pin safety (like P226, Beretta 92, Smith 3rd Gen, etc)

- 3" barrel.

- single stack (8+1?) and enhanced capacity 1 1/2 stack variants (12+1?)

- Recessed, stiff, and absolutely positive heel mag release (think milspec Makarov).

- Standard high visibility sight options (three-dot, snowman, tritium, etc.). I guess an RDS mounting location could be part of the system for those so inclined.

Design starting points could include:

- 3914DAO using the barrel of the CS9 and the 3914's improved contour slide.

- Sig P290RS with a bit longer grip to allow for 8 shot mag without the weird frame extension baseplate.
 
this is a very religious question :D When asked this question I always say, whatever works for you. Find that and train with it til its second nature.
 
I'd rather carry a 1911 in .45 but lately I've been using an EZ 9 because I can rack the slide easier. Getting old and having Parkinson's has changed what I can reliably carry.

It only has 8 + 1 rounds but I carry 2 extra magazines and feel very comfortable. If it takes more than 1 mag I should be getting out of there anyway. EZ 9.jpg
 
It's a judgment call.

I carry a Shield EZ 9, OWB. Many people prefer the excellent Glock G-19. I gain a grip safety, an easier slide racking effort, and a quarter of an inch in thinness. I like the tigger pull.

I lose some capacity, and that may prove very important some day.

The grip safety was one main discriminator. Slide racking effort had to be within my limit.

Thirteen years and few months ago, I was talking to an old friend about a handgun for my spouse. She prefers revolvers.

"Tell her to get a Glock. It's just like a revolver, but it holds more, You just pick it up and shoot it".

He and are equal in age and experience, but at the time, I remained more old-fashioned. I could not get past the idea of not having a safety on a semi-automatic pistol.

Then one day in a training class, I drew and---nothing. I had fumbled and failed to disengage the safety. That scared the daylights out of me, even though my attacker was paper target. I divested the gun immediately.

I replaced it with a Springfield XDS 9 4.0. It has a lower capacity, but it has a grip safety.

But I found that after open heart surgery, I could barely rack the slice. A friend's Ruger American Pistol was easier, so I bought the compact model--without a manual safety. It's little heavy for a bad back, but it has more capacity. I had to live with the lack of a grip safety. BTW, it has a much better trigger than the XDS.

Then Smith and Wesson came out with the EZ 9. I bought one immediately.

I would not turn down a G-19 today,

I do not want anything too small and compact, and I do not want to carry an all-steel pistol all day. Been there, done that.

I am not pushing my choice for others.
Have you looked at a Walther CCP? They have easy slides to rack too.
 
If you get to your LGS and they happen to have a Kahr P9 or p40 put in your hand. It’s a very basic gun that once I held one I had to have one. One downside is they have a heavy spring and if racking is a issue this could be a problem. I’ve never had a single issue with mine.
 
Glock 23/19/32 is still king of carry over here. 3rd gen for 9mm, 4th for the others. I haven't really tested the 5ths yet.
-add an Agency Arms carry magwell
-undercut the trigger guard
-G35 trigger. Flush cut.
-Dawson or Warren sights
-Crossbreed Supertuck.

Alternatively the 45 is nice. It's a 19 with a fullsize grip. (Glock 19 commander?). The 48 is a skinny 19. Still shootable.

Dan Wesson Vigil Commander is a nice option.
 
Used to carry G2c .40, couldnt hit the broad side of the barn.
Switch to Taurus model 889 .38 4 in, using hollow points +P+. Can shoot inside the same bullet hole all 6 at 10 meters. Bonus is the wife shoots very well with it.
 
I can’t say best gun, for me, because I’m still working out preference for trigger system and caliber, every time I think I’ve got it settled I change my mind.

But I can say, for me, the best size has been settled and that’s about Glock 19 sized; 4” barrel (or nearly that length) and around 5” height, 36 oz loaded or less preferable.

Anything larger or heavier and I either can’t conceal it well enough for my liking under a T-shirt or my back starts to hurt at the end of the day.

Anything smaller and I’m not happy with the performance compared to the above, and usually doesn’t carry better, enough, on the belt to justify in the drop in performance for my preference.
 
The gun I carry meets my needs. It’s a Staccato C, which is the single stack with 8 in the mag and one in the chamber. At 26 ounces it’s comfortable to carry all day. It’s very easy to conceal, and being a 2011 has the same safeties as a 1911. The sights are very good, especially that front sight for my aging eyes. It’s very accurate and feeds any 9mm I’ve found to try in it.

The right carry gun is a very personal choice. It’s a good feeling when you finally find the one that ticks off all the boxes for you.
 
Another pitch for the 365. I'm dealing with some arthir, and I can both rack the slide without drama and shoot the gun without discomfort. It shoots where it looks, and it works all the time. It's easy to hide. It can have a manual safety, and you can use it or not. It will feed a sized, empty case.
Yeah, you need a Lula to load the mags. Yeah, a full sized service pistol is better in every regard. But for an armed civilian, a service caliber in a concealable size is hard to beat.
Moon
 
If you get to your LGS and they happen to have a Kahr P9 or p40 put in your hand.

Even the CW9... the cheapo version of the P9... is a solid choice, but does not have a safety, grip or otherwise. I don't think this makes it unsafe, the longer trigger pull is the safety, much like a revolver (with no safety, by the way.) It fits my hand like a little 1911, even better than a real downsized 1911 like my Colt Government .380. The slide might be an issue... that would be something you would have to try on for yourself. Yes, it's also a single-stacker at 7+1, which some feel is a disadvantage. It's light, it packs well in a good holster... even an IWB holster, because it's so slim.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top