The bolt will not close.....

[fpgt72]

I am puzzled here....this is not my fist time at this, but really puzzled.

The rifle is an old Carcano in 6.5.

I have some factory partizan brass that I have used for quite a while....shot the factory loads, and reloaded them for a few years. (this is not a lot of shooting...I bet they have been reloaded twice)...everything works great.

A while ago I came across some norma brass for 6.5 carcano and bought 100 and figured this would last me forever. I full length sized them just like I do with the partazan brass but for some reason they will not chamber. I have checked COAL and about every other measurement I can think of...no dice....yet the partazan brass will run just perfect in the rifle.

Any idea on what I am doing wrong.

Again factory fresh partazan as well as my reloads using the partazan brass work perfect....and shoot very well also using the hornady bullets (i think they are the only ones that make them the correct size)

Thanks again.

 

[dgod]

I am hoping you get the info you are seeking, as I also have a Carcano that I believe is a 6.5 as well.

Good Luck
Dan

 

[entropy]

Measure the Privi Partizan brass against the Norma. I'd suspect shoulder height is the issue.

 

[rsrocket1]

If you knew where the brass is hanging up, you'd be a lot closer to solving your problem. Take a magic marker, color the case completely with it and try to chamber it. Look for wher the ink is rubbed off and you'll know where it's hanging up.

Case mouth
Neck
Shoulder
Body
Base

 

[fpgt72]

Good ideas...I will try tonight and let you guys know.

 

[ybuck44]

Neck thickness maybe be the issue, I have had to trim the necks of new brass before in other surplus rifles

 

[hdwhit]

fpgt72 wrote:
I have checked COAL and about every other measurement I can think of...

Like rsrocket1 already said, color a case, chamber it and see where the color is being rubbed off. As entropy already said, the most likely area is case shoulder. Measure where the shoulder starts and where it merges into the neck and compare that with a case that does chamber. Chances are you will see a difference.

Now the obvious question is why you could resize your fired brass and it would work while the new brass sized in those same dies would not. The most likely answer is that the Serbian made ammunition was sized to SAAMI minimums and so went into the rifle just fine and once fired was "fire formed" to the chamber. Your reloading dies might not have even touched the shoulder of the case and they still worked because they were going back into a chamber from which they had previously been fired. If a comparison of a sized Norma case in comparison with a previously fired PPU case shows a difference, then your reloading dies are not adjusted correctly and will need to be adjusted.