The definition of a vegetarian

[gamestalker]

"Vegetarian" is a word used by Native Indians that means "Bad hunter"

GS

 

[caribou]

Untill 50 or so years ago, Eskimo folks here "vegetarian' was, in local lingo pronounced as "Dead"

 

[jmorris]

I miss Andy Rooney but a I think one of my favorites was "Can you believe it? Monica turned 28 this week. It seems like only yesterday that she was crawling round the White House on her hands and knees."

I understand vegetarians though as I for the most part eat herbivores myself.

 

[MCgunner]

Had the T shirt. Wore it out. Now, I have one that says "Hey vegetarians, my food poops on your food" with a pic of a buck doing his business.

 

[MCgunner]

But, I do like my garden veggies.

 

[Patocazador]

I have a T-shirt that says, "I didn't fight to get to the top of the food chain in order to eat tofu!"

 

[gamestalker]

I also have that T shirt "my food poops on your food".

As for my greens and fruits, I love them and eat more than most people do. But don't try to take my red meat from me, I can't live life without a rare chunk of beef, deer, elk, or other tasty game animal. Speaking of, a good friend just gave me an entire fully processed white tail last week. He's a meat cutter, and every year he gets clients that don't want the meat, so he gives it to friends.

GS

 

[MCgunner]

Well, my freezer is full of venison and wild pork and SOMEBODY has to eat it.

 

[Grumulkin]

"Vegetarian" is a word used by Native Indians that means "Bad hunter"

GS

Ha. Ha.

That one has been going around for a long time. Some people I know used to say that; that was before they knew about all the stuff I killed. One PH I had previously had guided a vegetarian hunter, the Sha of Iran.

As for those who love your pork and whatever, I hope you enjoy your colon cancers, coronary stents, bypass surgeries, early deaths, etc.

 

[Sunray]

Used to get the female vegetarians I know, um, enraged, by telling 'em to keep eating like that. Those of us higher on the food chain will need the meat come the Apocalypse. Hard to run fast when you're laughing that hard.

 

[Art Eatman]

I've subscribed to Range Magazine for a number of years. Oriented toward ranchers in the west and in high mountain country. They feature a segment called "Confessions of a Red Meat Survivor". Most of the confessors are above 90 years of age. I'm still too young, at only 81.

 

[CoRoMo]

Recent Poll of 1,789 "vegetarians" showed that they all eat meat... ALL OF THEM

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2015/10/07/one-third-vegetarians-eat-meat-when-get-drunk/

One third of vegetarians eat meat when they get drunk

When asked how often they eat meat:

--34% said every time they get drunk on a night out

--26% replied fairly often

--22% said “Rarely”

--18% said “Occasionally”

But when it came to disclosing their dirty dietary secret, a majority of meat eating vegetarian respondents (69 percent) said they never told others they ate meat.

The heck is a "meat eating vegetarian"?
I thought vegetarians don't eat meat, but this shows that they all eat meat.

But full disclosure time...
I claimed to be a vegetarian in college. Not to protect animals, not for health reasons, nope. I claimed to be one because it seemed to draw in the gals. Girls dug vegetarians where I ran around. And I was as much of a vegetarian as the 1,789 "vegetarians" in the poll above.

Eventually decided to live honestly though.

 

[buck460XVR]

It is the regular consumption of meat that often is thought to have triggered major changes in the human lineage, the genus Homo, with this high-energy food supporting large human brains, i.e. we exist as we are today only because of the consumption of red meat, and especially that red meat that has been cooked. Also, in-depth research has repeatedly verified that red meats are essential for the vision and immune systems of all developing children. Humans always have been and always will be omnivores. That is, normal Humans.......

 

[TwoFirstNames]

As for those who love your pork and whatever, I hope you enjoy your colon cancers, coronary stents, bypass surgeries, early deaths, etc.

Meat consumption doesn't lead to any bad health outcomes. An excess of meat in your diet may increase your risk of certain unfavorable health outcomes.
Then again, it may not. There are a lot of other factors at play, including genetics. My mother passed away at 64 and I have never met anyone who had a healthier lifestyle. Thems the breaks.
That being said, the older I get, the more I appreciate the variety that is possible when you make the decision to eat something other than meat for dinner.

 

[Ranger Roberts]

"Hey, did you hear that <insert name here> is a vegan? Don't worry, he'll tell you all about it." Is my favorite joke about vegetarians!

My mom has been a vegetarian since the age of 8, she is now in her mid sixties. My dad has hunted his whole life, mom didn't care at all. She even cooks the game that he brings home. My wife is also a vegetarian. She is the same as my mom. She won't kill it but she'll cook it. Heck, she events helps me gut deer.

As long as someone doesn't preach to me and it doesn't harm me in any way, I don't care how they live their life. The really preachy ones send me through the roof though. Especially when they became a vegan 3 weeks ago and want to tell me how I am a barbarian. I love seeing the look on their faces when I tell them that mom has been a vegetarian for 60 years and will clean and cook our bounty from a day's hunt.

Most people that I have met over the years that are vegetarians don't last more than a few months before there are chicken wings sitting on their dinner plate again.

 

[tdstout]

As for those who love your pork and whatever, I hope you enjoy your colon cancers, coronary stents, bypass surgeries, early deaths, etc.

Well just give me a porkchop with a side of bacon then.

 

[Choctaw]

Well just give me a porkchop with a side of bacon then.

Me too. We all die of something. Even vegetarians.

 

[Sunray]

"...We all die of something..." Yep. Eat right, get regular exercise, enough sleep, etc. Die anyway. That one tends to enrage the dieticians and athletic types.
Bacon is the side of a pork chop. snicker.

 

[MCgunner]

It is the regular consumption of meat that often is thought to have triggered major changes in the human lineage, the genus Homo, with this high-energy food supporting large human brains, i.e. we exist as we are today only because of the consumption of red meat, and especially that red meat that has been cooked. Also, in-depth research has repeatedly verified that red meats are essential for the vision and immune systems of all developing children. Humans always have been and always will be omnivores. That is, normal Humans......

Twould explain why so many vegetarians seem to be of such low intellect

As for those who love your pork and whatever, I hope you enjoy your colon cancers, coronary stents, bypass surgeries, early deaths, etc.

I worked for 30 years in the chemical industry around such carcinogens as vinyl chloride, aromatic hydrocarbons of all types, and with such deadly gases as hydrogen cyanide, pure liquid HCN, and hydrogen sulfide, which will kill you in 1/5th the minimum lethal concentration of hydrogen cyanide. You think I'm worried about a little good tasting smoked pork? Bwaaaaa, ha, ha, ha, ha! That's hilarious! Besides, I quit listening to those stupid studies. They usually find what the grant provider wants 'em to find, talking grant providers like HSUS or PETA.

"...We all die of something..." Yep. Eat right, get regular exercise, enough sleep, etc. Die anyway. That one tends to enrage the dieticians and athletic types.
Bacon is the side of a pork chop. snicker.

Uh? Pork bellies, my friend! I have a nice, fatty chunk of belly off the last pig I trapped a while back. I need to pick up some curing salts and try to make my own. I usually just grind it up in my sausage, but the wife found a recipe/how to for making bacon online and I wanna try it.

To expect a man to give up his bacon? Wow, not gonna happen. I mean, you have to have bacon so you can wrap your duck and dove breasts in it, too, ya know.

 

[burrhead]

If we weren't suppose to eat animals, they wouldn't be made out of meat.

 

[Grumulkin]

I've subscribed to Range Magazine for a number of years. Oriented toward ranchers in the west and in high mountain country. They feature a segment called "Confessions of a Red Meat Survivor". Most of the confessors are above 90 years of age. I'm still too young, at only 81.

It's kind of like the ones who say they don't wear seat belts because one time they heard about someone who would have been killed in an accident if they had been wearing one. Or just the other day the guy who was telling me how his mother smoked, etc. and lived to her 90s. Some people just luck out with good genes or providence; it doesn't prove they made the right choices.

It is the regular consumption of meat that often is thought to have triggered major changes in the human lineage, the genus Homo, with this high-energy food supporting large human brains, i.e. we exist as we are today only because of the consumption of red meat, and especially that red meat that has been cooked. Also, in-depth research has repeatedly verified that red meats are essential for the vision and immune systems of all developing children. Humans always have been and always will be omnivores.

True, it's thought that by those who don't know any better.

Take a look at the book, The China Study which has information on more "in depth research" that hasn't been funded or promoted by the animal husbandry industry.

The heck is a "meat eating vegetarian"? I thought vegetarians don't eat meat, but this shows that they all eat meat.

By definition vegetarians don't eat meat. If they eat meat, they're NOT vegetarians. And no, they don't all eat meat.

My mom has been a vegetarian since the age of 8, she is now in her mid sixties. My dad has hunted his whole life, mom didn't care at all. She even cooks the game that he brings home. My wife is also a vegetarian. She is the same as my mom. She won't kill it but she'll cook it. Heck, she events helps me gut deer.

Really, I don't care what you eat. Years ago I was at the beach with friends when a wave washed up some makrel type fish and we collected a bunch of them. Oseas had the job of cleaning them and looked crestfallen. I pitched in and helped him clean fish. He comented, with some gratitude, that the others liked to eat fish but didn't like to clean them while I, who wasn't going to eat them, helped clean them.

A few years ago in Florida, I brought in a black drum and several whiting. My wife was skeptical when I said I was going to cook them for her. When done, she thought the fried fish were pretty good.

I'm not an animal rights activist. I think PETA and the Humane Society are frauds and I will never favor rules or legislation that would prevent you from hunting or eating your kill. At the same time, I regularly come in contact with people that bring on suffering to themselves and their families by their habits.

 

[Art Eatman]

Think about the fella who doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. Careful about his diet. Exercises regularly.

So there he is in the nursing home, dying of nothing.

Flip side:

Reporter to a really old-looking guy sitting on a curb, "Sir, to what do you attribute your condition?"

"I never saw a bottle of whiskey or a case of beer that I didn't drink. Smoked cigarettes all my life. Made love to every woman that I could."

"Sir, just how old are you?"

"Twenty-seven."

 

[3212]

I consider a balanced diet to include vegetables and meat in moderation.I prefer my meat to be venison,chicken and fish.I try to gather two of the three myself.Some years are better than others.On all day drives McDonalds gets some of our business.The first deer of the season is in the freezer.

 

[AStone]

I'm a biologist who's taught anatomy and physiology for medical students. The line from "the authorities" for most of the 20th century and continuing today is, low fat, high carbs. Lots of grains.

My new nutrition mentor -- Nora Gedgaudas -- is a nutritionist with a strong background in biochem and evolutionary biology. She makes the most persuasive case yet for a ketogenic diet: high fat, moderate protein (3 ounces per meal), very low carbs (< 50 g/day -- shooting at 30 grams or less). Our species did not evolve eating grains. Those did not become a large part of our diet until the invention of agriculture around 8000 years ago. Before then, we were hunter gatherers, and most calories came from animal fat. Wars were fought over fat.

A friend in his 60's who suffered a major heart attack in 2007, and was a vegan for 30 years before, got me onto it. He gets 80% of his calories from fat. I mean, untrimmed ribeyes, with heavy fat; bacon; eggs; pork belly; butter; cheese, duck, nuts, etc. His breakfast for years: 4 eggs, a stick of butter, covered with cheese. He eats zero grains. His heart function is now back to 90% (he almost died). He walks 2 miles daily at a fast pace. His blood chemistry astounds the clinicians; because it's so good; every measure, from cholesterol to triglicerides. They ask about his diet, and he says, "Ketogenic". They grin and say, "Me too -- but we can't talk about it here in the cardiac ward."

Her book makes the argument -- based in published studies in MAJOR scientific journals -- that every single major disease -- cancer, cardiovascular, diabetes, etc, etc -- is a result of a low fat diet that our species only adopted in the 20th century. Before that, we were a high fat culture. Many cultures around the world still are, and they are healthy. (Think of Inuit that eat whale fat.) Heart attacks were not common before the 20th century.

I mean, there's a reason that bacon tastes so good.

This is the video that convinced me.


https://vimeo.com/52876035

 

[MCgunner]

I mean, there's a reason that bacon tastes so good.

Now THERE is a wise man.